2025-2026 offseason thread

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…players don’t have leverage in a free agent market? Again, complete and total nonsense. Your brain is a pretzel.
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Jesus you are dense.

Change it to very little leverage if it makes you feel better. The insinuation is that the player, who is now not as good as when he signed his contract, has no leverage (or very little leverage if it makes you feel better) to demand the same contract.

We're at the point of arguing semantics and grammar.
 
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bravesfanMatt said:
I will let my editor know to proof my post better.. it really shouldn't be hard to see the point someone is making and not getting really hung up on a single word especially when I corrected it two post after saying it.. but take your prize for pointing out I said negative.. doesn't change the fact that Murph holds no value and wasn't in fact the best player in that trade like some here claimed so adamantly . should I go grab those posts??
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Yes, it is definitely my fault that you said something you apparently didn’t mean lol.

Do whatever you feel you need to do in order to make yourself feel better for being wrong. No harm to me. But it still has zero bearing on you being wrong here.
 
Regardless of Sean Murphys trade value or lack thereof, it’s been a good week to be a Braves fan. I would like to see Alex fill another gaping hole before the weekend, and I don’t mean Cy’s mom.
 
Jaw said:
Regardless of Sean Murphys trade value or lack thereof, it’s been a good week to be a Braves fan. I would like to see Alex fill another gaping hole before the weekend, and I don’t mean Cy’s mom.
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Yeah I really don’t want to watch AA do sex…that sex tape would have negative value in my book.
 
The payroll currently sits at $238M, which is almost exactly where it was at its peak in 2024. There is a very real possibility the roster is complete, with the most likely addition being a legit (but unspectacular) SP that could bring the total to around $250-$255M...which would likely be Top 5 in MLB.

Folks might want to start preparing to cheer on this roster in 2026...

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Carp said:
That's not an accurate assessment of the situation.

There are many players with heavy contracts that would likely get claimed by some team with a lot of money if they were put on waivers. But it's doubtful they would receive the same contract offer if they were a FA right now.

Like Sonny Gray for instance. I'm sure some team would have easily claimed him if he were put on waivers where he cost nothing but cash. If he were a FA however, there is virtually zero chance that someone is going to offer him 40 million for the 2026 season.
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I don't follow.

why would a team be willing to pay him 3/45 on waivers but not in free agency?

It's the exact same decision.

If no one would be willing to pay 3/45 in FA then no one should be willing to pick him off waivers.
 
Enscheff said:
The payroll currently sits at $238M, which is almost exactly where it was at its peak in 2024. There is a very real possibility the roster is complete, with the most likely addition being a legit (but unspectacular) SP that could bring the total to around $250-$255M...which would likely be Top 5 in MLB.

Folks might want to start preparing to cheer on this roster in 2026...

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If Jimenez comes back then the bullpen is one of the best in baseball so it's done. I just don't see AA rolling with Dubon at SS. He might be waiting Kim out or he'll make a trade to upgrade it but even AA knows that the offense needs that upgrade. SP is where I'm leaning he may be done bc Lopez will be given a the 4th spot going into ST if he's healthy. That's a big if and a big mistake if he does. A bottom 4 of Yaz, Harris, Albies, and Dubon is pretty rough.
 
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Carp said:
Jesus you are dense.

Change it to very little leverage if it makes you feel better. The insinuation is that the player, who is now not as good as when he signed his contract, has no leverage (or very little leverage if it makes you feel better) to demand the same contract.

We're at the point of arguing semantics and grammar.
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you're fundamentally wrong though

first you're missing the important fact that while murphy's EV going forward is lower than when he signed the contract, the contract is artificially low already because it bought out his final 3 pre-FA years

second, his old contract is irrelevant. nobody says "we agree this player is worth 3/45 but we can't pay him that because he's not as good as the last time he was paid that." if murphy is magically a FA today his agent is going to start the bidding way higher than 3/45 and haggle their way down and when the number gets to 3/45, the team that already thought that was a good price will agree to it.
 
cajunrevenge said:
I think theres a good chance they sign Kim. I think he is their backup plan. If other things fall through and they are left with money to spend they sign Kim. I think he will atleast give us a chance to match whatever the best offer is. That he wants to wait plays into our favor. The Dubon trade was to prevent us from being totally fucked if Kim just signs with someone out of the blue.
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You could be right. I wonder what the front office ad player development staffs are thinking regarding last year's draftees Lodise and Miller (and Gil and Perdomo a little further down the line). Because of their presence, I wonder if Anthopoulos wants to go longer than two years with someone like Kim. Maybe two with an opt-out is the way to go because we will know more about those guys, especially Lodise. Curious where those guys start in 2026. They probably want Lodise in AA, but that might be pushing him too hard. I think Gil and Miller would be slated for High-A. Add Williams into the mix He's currently at 2B, but they should just move him to 1B now to make sure everyone is getting ABs and the fact that we really don't have a 1B prospect in the system right now.
 
50PoundHead said:
You could be right. I wonder what the front office ad player development staffs are thinking regarding last year's draftees Lodise and Miller (and Gil and Perdomo a little further down the line). Because of their presence, I wonder if Anthopoulos wants to go longer than two years with someone like Kim. Maybe two with an opt-out is the way to go because we will know more about those guys, especially Lodise. Curious where those guys start in 2026. They probably want Lodise in AA, but that might be pushing him too hard. I think Gil and Miller would be slated for High-A. Add Williams into the mix He's currently at 2B, but they should just move him to 1B now to make sure everyone is getting ABs and the fact that we really don't have a 1B prospect in the system right now.
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Lodise probably does start at AA but he needs to be in high A. And if AA still has any smarts he won't not sign a position of need in hopes a guy you drafted less than a year ago can contribute in a year or 2.
 
Cleveland picked up Holderman for 1.5m. He still has options. That’s about as low risk, high reward as they get.
 
Hudson2 said:
Lodise probably does start at AA but he needs to be in high A. And if AA still has any smarts he won't not sign a position of need in hopes a guy you drafted less than a year ago can contribute in a year or 2.
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I do not thibk Lodise has any bearing at all in this offseason. There is no reason for the front office to make any plans based on him becoming a MLB player.
 
Would Nico Hoerner, 2B of the Cubs, be a better add than Seager, to play SS for the Braves? He has one year left on his contract. At what trade cost? Extendable?
 
Southcack77 said:
I don't follow.

why would a team be willing to pay him 3/45 on waivers but not in free agency?

It's the exact same decision.

If no one would be willing to pay 3/45 in FA then no one should be willing to pick him off waivers.
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You just don’t understand leverage or something
 
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