2025-2026 offseason thread

Hudson2 said:
King at 25 per, woof. Suarez and Framber will get more. Gallen should have accepted the QO.
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King has some injury concerns, but he has great stuff. 3/75 is pretty solid if he stays healthy.

I don't think anyone else was offering him 3/75 though, especially with losing a pick.
 
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Carp said:
King has some injury concerns, but he has great stuff. 3/75 is pretty solid if stays healthy.

I don't think anyone else was offering him 3/75 though, especially with losing a pick.
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The issue with this deal is the opt out after both seasons.

He is either going to be great in 2026 and opt out, or hurt in 2026 or 2027 and opt into a elite salary. There is virtually zero upside in this contract for SD as they've assumed every ounce of risk, and given King ultimate flexibility. It's a pure downside play for the team.

This is a deal I'm glad AA stayed far away from.
 
Enscheff said:
The issue with this deal is the opt out after both seasons.

He is either going to be great in 2026 and opt out, or hurt in 2026 or 2027 and opt into a elite salary. There is virtually zero upside in this contract for SD as they've assumed every ounce of risk, and given King ultimate flexibility. It's a pure downside play for the team.

This is a deal I'm glad AA stayed far away from.
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I didn't realize it has opt outs.. So yeah, this a pretty dumb deal for SD. Either he's great and he goes to FA again, or he sucks/is injured and you're stuck paying him 50 million over the final 2 years.

At best you're expecting him to have 1 good season with you, and you hope it's year 1.
 
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bravesfanMatt said:
I didn't say he was never successful.. just seems he left a lot on the table with his stuff.. He was good for sure.
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Because he got hurt and had TJ. He was a TOR guy at the age of 25 and 26 and won a CYA. Got hurt in 23, missed 24, and wasn't good at all in his first season back last year. Who knows if he even has the same stuff anymore.
 
The peak for Sandy was brief, but he was a top 10 pitcher for a couple of seasons. If he's cheap enough, I'd absolutely take the chance that we could get him back to TOR form.
 
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zbhargrove said:
Ranger has roughly the same swing and miss numbers as Max Fried
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Not this past year. Fried's Whiff% was 26.6 which was 59th percentile. Suarez was 22.2 which is 24th percentile.

Their K rates are similar but Fried gets more swings and misses.

Overall they're not too dissimilar pitchers at this point in their careers. Both are guys that rely on inducing weak contact. They're both elite in exit velocity with hitters struggling to barrel the ball.

I wouldn't be shocked if Suarez got a Fried like contract with a $25 million+ a year average. More than I'd be comfortable spending in either of them.
 
I don't think Sandy happens, but Bendix hasn't really shown much of a intradivision trade tax (see Luzardo for reference), so I don't think the Marlins would charge them more than everyone else.
 
CJ9 said:
I'm more interested in MacKenzie Gore if we're going within the division.
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I would also rather gamble on Gore if we could make it happen. But he will be expensive, still has some uncertainty in his eventual profile, and I'm not sure if we really match up well as trade partners with the Gnats
 
Carp said:
The peak for Sandy was brief, but he was a top 10 pitcher for a couple of seasons. If he's cheap enough, I'd absolutely take the chance that we could get him back to TOR form.
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He's not cheap. He's making 17 million next year in the final year of his deal.
 
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