UNCBlue012
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Yeah, I won't hug prospects for a guy like Peralta. But Waldrep is a really good backend starter with legitimate upside.
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bravesfanMatt
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Who did the Braves trade for with Malloy. I was one that thought he could have been a better 4th outfielder than white. Oops.
Hudson2
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At this point with Ritchie being almost ready and having good upside that's really valuable to us. I'd rather just sign Bassitt to stabilize the rotation and it will only cost money.
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CrimsonCowboy
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Honestly, I wouldn’t mind bringing Ozuna back at this point. With how the last couple years have gone with the offense performance and injury-wise. I’ll take all the good bats we can get. Just as long as we’re still cycling people through DH a couple times a week.
A 30% strikeout rate in Japan does not bode well for his future in MLB
Southcack77
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I get confused sometimes by the way folks value things.
Why be more willing to give up 6 years of control of a close to MLB pitcher (plus) for one year of Peralta then giving up a second round pick for multiple years of a free agent?
Because the money a FA gets becomes prohibitive.
You could just say “I don’t understand surplus value”.
Signing a FA means, by definition, you just acquired a player with negative surplus value, and gave up the 26th pick for the right to do it. No other team thinks he’s that valuable, which is why you won the bidding.
Peralta has positive trade value, which is why a prospect must be given up to acquire him.
It’s very basic player valuation. Whether or not he’s worth Ritchie is certainly open for debate.
jpx7
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I think his comment had more to do with the specific acquisition cost of Peralta than a fundamental obliviousness to surplus value re Free Agency. And given what the the Rays received for Shane Baz, I’d bet Peralta’s cost would be pretty steep. Fair to debate whether six cheap years of Ritchie (plus whoever else would need to be included) is worth a single season of Peralta—but a lot depends on how one wants to view/manage the contention-window (short- vs medium- vs long-term goals).
Southcack77
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I agree with most of that but it wasn't quite what I was getting at.
The last part - the debate of whether it's worth it to trade Roy was more my focus.
To me I'd take the zero surplus value free agent and give up the draft pick rather than trade rotation depth for a rental.
I suppose it depends on whether the Peralta k allowed you to do a couple more things though. I might be persuaded by that. Or maybe Ritchie isn't good enough in reality. That could also be true.
A quick glance at the statcast data from AAA makes him look like Waldrep minus 2 mph on the heaters, a change instead of a split, and more movement on all equivalent pitches. They both struck out about 9 per 9. Would I trade that guy for 1 season of a 3 win pitcher making $8m?
If I had the cash to simply sign someone like Bassitt for 2 years at double that salary? Probably not. Then again, a RHP firing 93 mph heaters isn’t exactly something I’m overly excited about, so maybe I would make the trade.
I honestly thought Peralta was better than that based off all the hype around his potential trade candidacy.
If I had the cash to simply sign someone like Bassitt for 2 years at double that salary? Probably not. Then again, a RHP firing 93 mph heaters isn’t exactly something I’m overly excited about, so maybe I would make the trade.
I honestly thought Peralta was better than that based off all the hype around his potential trade candidacy.
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