UNCBlue012
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Apologies if this has been posted already, but there's probably a lot of truth here. Still, so frustrating:
2025 Trade Deadline Thread
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UNCBlue012
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The one good thing to come from this is that Atlanta can actually keep Pierce Johnson in 2026. He’s an absolute weapon, and I hated the idea of losing him. I also wouldn’t be surprised if AA offers Iggy a one- or two-year extension, assuming he keeps up his current production. Ozuna is gone.
I'm being a bit positive here, but there's nothing else to do.
I'm being a bit positive here, but there's nothing else to do.
Been discussed and the consensus seems to be: bullshit
Iggy and Ozuna alone have around 10m remaining on the deals, that doesn't count any other players we could have traded like Pierce, Bummer, Murphy, or Profar (hey I can dream right?) . You're telling me the potential difference in ticket sales and overall Battery traffic is greater than the 10m we are already paying them? What sort of fan interest are they expecting from a team that is 15 games under .500 already and missing their entire rotation save Strider and missing their best player for most of the rest of the season?
The math ain't mathing.
AA seems to get off on being the smartest man in the room. Every time he makes a shrewd deal and it succeeds, it feeds his ego even more.
But here's the thing. AA would get so much more praise if he just went for it and stopped trying to be the smartest guy in the room. Trying to be the smartest guy in the room is what caused us to lose Freeman for roughly the exact same contract that he ended up offering to Olson, after trading several top prospects for him. It's what caused AA to think he pulled a slick one with getting Arcia for so cheap and then not developing a back up plan at SS when he knew Arcia had been super mediocre to bad for 80% of his career. It is what caused AA to make the Contreras/Murphy deal where he traded away a better, younger, and cheaper catcher for an older, worse hitting, more expensive catcher. And trying to be the smartest guy in the room is how he ended up signing everyone to a long term extension at the same time only to end up in luxury tax hell and not being able to make the necessary moves to improve the club.
AJ Preller is not what I call a very smart GM. But by God, he isn't afraid to make the bold moves he thinks can get his team over the edge. And I gotta respect him for that. Sort of a controlled chaos. AA needs to take notes, because he is about to be out of a job if we have to endure another season of mediocrity. And trying to be smarter than everyone else is not how you're gonna drastically improve this club.
But here's the thing. AA would get so much more praise if he just went for it and stopped trying to be the smartest guy in the room. Trying to be the smartest guy in the room is what caused us to lose Freeman for roughly the exact same contract that he ended up offering to Olson, after trading several top prospects for him. It's what caused AA to think he pulled a slick one with getting Arcia for so cheap and then not developing a back up plan at SS when he knew Arcia had been super mediocre to bad for 80% of his career. It is what caused AA to make the Contreras/Murphy deal where he traded away a better, younger, and cheaper catcher for an older, worse hitting, more expensive catcher. And trying to be the smartest guy in the room is how he ended up signing everyone to a long term extension at the same time only to end up in luxury tax hell and not being able to make the necessary moves to improve the club.
AJ Preller is not what I call a very smart GM. But by God, he isn't afraid to make the bold moves he thinks can get his team over the edge. And I gotta respect him for that. Sort of a controlled chaos. AA needs to take notes, because he is about to be out of a job if we have to endure another season of mediocrity. And trying to be smarter than everyone else is not how you're gonna drastically improve this club.
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CrimsonCowboy
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bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
so you couldn't try and extract value for 2028 out of either of those guys... I find it VERY hard to believe that the Braves paying the remainder of the 25 salary, that a team would not have given up an A ball lottery ticket... Shut the fuck up you lying POS... you suck and after the JK debacle are even more timid to do anything you stupid loser...
He speaks about being respectful to these players and it not being fair.....
Overlooking the fact that these guys are professionals and they are paid to deal with it, that is rich coming from AA.
This is coming from the same guy that DFA'd Culberson right before Father's day when his dad was supposed to throw out the first pitch.
This is the same guy that flew franchise icon Craig Kimbrel out to CA to pitch 1 game, in which he gave up zero runs, and then cut him a day later.
And he wants to talk about being fair and respectful?
AA can, not respectfully, go eat a big ole bag of dicks.
Overlooking the fact that these guys are professionals and they are paid to deal with it, that is rich coming from AA.
This is coming from the same guy that DFA'd Culberson right before Father's day when his dad was supposed to throw out the first pitch.
This is the same guy that flew franchise icon Craig Kimbrel out to CA to pitch 1 game, in which he gave up zero runs, and then cut him a day later.
And he wants to talk about being fair and respectful?
AA can, not respectfully, go eat a big ole bag of dicks.
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50PoundHead
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There are a few of us--like Henry the Fifth's Band of Brothers--who have been more balanced than some of the over-the-top Anthopoulos defenders who seem to blame everyone above him and below him for when things come up short. Add to that, I think there was more than one of the group (and I was one) that thought Anthopoulos was going to little, if anything, at the deadline. I'm fine hold onto Pierce Johnson (who probably would have had the strongest market), but there's no excuse for not moving Ozuna and Iglesias unless Anthopoulos is convinced the Braves are still in the race and he may be. But if either of those guys is back in 2026, there are some screws loose in the management framework.
Old school thinking was afoot at the deadline, even if it wasn't Snitker's one-room-school variety and I agree that the answers here are textbook PR blather. What is more troubling to me--and none of us will ever know if this is true or not--are reports that the Braves didn't even engage in conversations with other teams regarding possible deals. That would be malfeasance of the highest order.
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If AA is convinced the Braves are still in the race, then he definitely shouldn’t be fired. He should be fitted out in a straight jacket and taken away.
That dude looks stressed as fuck. And he’s lost a ton of weight.
msstate7
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If there's one thing I've learned for my teams is skinny coach (maybe GM too) isn't a good thing. Fat Dan Mullen > skinny Dan Mullen and fat Sean Payton > skinny Sean. Think you want your coach (and maybe GM) spending too many hours in the office eating fast food, not out jogging and such
You may be on to something.
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
The ghost of Don Shula disagrees.
If nothing else, I have lived an interesting life and have some good stories. I knew a guy who played in the NFL for over a decade and his last stop was with the Dolphins. During Dolphins' training camp, Shula was a fitness nut and would force the team to run "The Shula Mile" with him every year. My acquaintance was nearing the end of his career and this was his first camp with the Dolphins and Dolphins' players warned him, "Whatever you do, don't beat Shula in the race or you'll get on his bad side." So they're nearing the end of the mile and this guy says "F*ck it. This is ridiculous. We're basically jogging and not running. I'm going to beat Shula." He did and a few days later, he saw his name on the waiver wire. Like I said, it was the last stop in his career and when he told the story, he couldn't stop laughing.
Even his wife thinks he’s lost it.
