6/10/15: GDT - San Diego Padres @ Atlanta Braves

thethe said:
For starters, no team is perfect so not all those spots need to be filled with good players. Also, our outfield next year is going to be markakis/Smith/Maybin. I'd also bring Uribe back for another season. The offense is working the way it is now. The bullpen will need to be adressed big time. I'd bring in a proven closer on a 2-3 year deal.
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You are right that no team is perfect. But out offense has done as well as it has this year with a hot start from AJ, Maybin having his best year, and KJ hitting very well before he got hurt. And 3B is still just a mess. If we go with your proposed plan of Maybin/Smith/Nick in the outfield and Uribe at 3rd you don't think it's within the realm of possibility that Maybin goes back to hittng how he has his whole career, Smith falls flat as a rookie, Uribue stays old and hits like he has this year, and CB continues to suck at catcher?

I'm not saying all those things are going to happen. But a lot of the offense being better this year has to do with guys not slated to being the future of this team with Mabin being the lone possible exception and I don't think it's a sure thing he keeps hitting. So just becuase the offense isn't an issue right now doesn't mean it won't be next year.
 
thewupk said:
You are right that no team is perfect. But out offense has done as well as it has this year with a hot start from AJ, Maybin having his best year, and KJ hitting very well before he got hurt. And 3B is still just a mess. If we go with your proposed plan of Maybin/Smith/Nick in the outfield and Uribe at 3rd you don't think it's within the realm of possibility that Maybin goes back to hittng how he has his whole career, Smith falls flat as a rookie, Uribue stays old and hits like he has this year, and CB continues to suck at catcher?

I'm not saying all those things are going to happen. But a lot of the offense being better this year has to do with guys not slated to being the future of this team with Mabin being the lone possible exception and I don't think it's a sure thing he keeps hitting. So just becuase the offense isn't an issue right now doesn't mean it won't be next year.
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The offense has been humming along without Kelly and regression from AJ. Maybin just needed to be healthy. I 100% believe in that. Our starting pitching will carry us.
 
VirginiaBrave said:
No, the point is, last year's team didn't give a da-- whether it won or lost. The record spoke for itself. You do realize that had they played what became their norm later in the year in April they would have finished double digits under .500, don't you? They just strutted around like peacocks after that hot start that was basically smoke and mirrors because the pitching was insane the first month. The clubhouse was a mess for some reason, my money is on the Uptons and possibly a rift between the pro Uggla side and the dump Uggla side. Could be that they just hated Frank's guts and tanked on purpose, I don't know. None of us do, but there is one thing I do know games are not won on paper they are won on the field and this team keeps getting better and better. If they can stabilize the sixth and seventh that 87 win total I predicted in March is not only attainable this team will exceed it if the improvement continues.
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None of us know the reasons, but that doesn't stop you from blind speculation, huh?
 
i love every thread after a win we have obligitory thethe general question.. "so is it time to consider x player the GOAT?"
 
thethe said:
The offense has been humming along without Kelly and regression from AJ. Maybin just needed to be healthy. I 100% believe in that. Our starting pitching will carry us.
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Team WRC+ by month

April 92

May 80

June 119

So even with Maybin getting more playing time the offense did take a big hit in May when KJ got hurt, AJ stopped hitting, and Simmons came back to his normal levels. That said the team is doing really well in June thanks to a 372 BABIP.
 
sturg33 said:
i love every thread after a win we have obligitory thethe general question.. "so is it time to consider x player the GOAT?"
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well since we were assured in the offseason that this organization was doomed I just want to savor every win possible. We are going to be in the cellar fir the next 5 years since we broke up the 27 yankees.
 
thethe said:
well since we were assured in the offseason that this organization was doomed I just want to savor every win possible. We are going to be in the cellar fir the next 5 years since we broke up the 27 yankees.
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We're under .500 and you're declaring us WS contenders next year
 
thewupk said:
Team WRC+ by month
April 92
May 80
June 119

So even with Maybin getting more playing time the offense did take a big hit in May when KJ got hurt, AJ stopped hitting, and Simmons came back to his normal levels. That said the team is doing really well in June thanks to a 372 BABIP.
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BABIP is predictive in nature isn't it? Just because a team had a high BABIP over the month doesn't mean they were lucky it just means it's not likely to c9ntinue.
 
thethe said:
BABIP is predictive in nature isn't it? Just because a team had a high BABIP over the month doesn't mean they were lucky it just means it's not likely to c9ntinue.
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I mean the team was hovering right around .300 the first two months of the year which is generally what the league averge is across baseball. If a team has a 370 BABIP through the first 10 days or so of the month then yes I will generally say that's been luck and should not be expected to continue. These things have a way of correcting itself.

So my point remains. When KJ went out, AJ stopped hitting, and Simmons cooled off this team started hitting like crap. Take out KJ next year and have CB all year. Those could be problem positions. 3B is still a problem issue. Maybin is up in the air imo although the signs look good.

My point is that while the offnese has been better than expected. It's still fueld by people not expected to be here next year and surprise performances. We can't expect that to continue and say next year isn't an issue.
 
VERY early, but glad we didn't spend 9 figures on Lester to be the anchor of this staff. Results haven't been so hot.
 
sturg33 said:
Well if you love our core... I can only imagine what you think of Rizzo, Soler, Bryant, Russel, Castro, Baez, Schwarber... man oh man
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that core is great...what exactly is your point?

and they will still need pitching in the long run. they signed lester to a huge deal that won't look good in a couple of years.

edit: also, book is still out on castro, baez, and even soler. i'm a big believer in schwarber (like, huge believer).
 
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