6/21/15: GDT - NY Mets @ Atlanta Braves

Chipper said:
If we had a decent pen, things would be much better. It's not like we're losing by trailing late in most games. We've lost quite a few after leading late. The team is playing well enough to win games, just can't keep the other team from excessive scoring from the 7th on.
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What is the perception of this team if they are 8 games over 500 right now? You can't tell me that there wasn't 4 games this year that an average pen would have upheld?
 
thethe said:
What is the perception of this team if they are 8 games over 500 right now? You can't tell me that there wasn't 4 games this year that an average pen would have upheld?
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There's at least 5-7 they hold with a pen worth a crap.

But who knows the media talk if they were 8 over.
 
I swear my GameDay said in play - runs and showed a man on second when Cuddyer hit the ball. Was real surprised when the audio caught up and we got a DP.
 
sturg33 said:
Well their productions have been this way for a while and we've been a .500 team this month and for the first two months
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Sure have, and how many games have the bullpen cost them?

Off the top of my head.

2 vs SD, 2 vs Ari, 1 vs Was, 1 last week vs NY, im sure some others as well.

And i know other teams have had it happen, but Atl has the most bullpen losses in baseball.

Just add 4 of those back, and the perception of the team is different.
 
Couldn't care less what the perception is about this team. It makes no difference on the outcomes of games. So ef what people say.
 
jpx7 said:
I don't think four more wins, over those listed games, would substantially change my perception of this team.
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You're right most likely, i think we need a couple more impact bats.
 
jpx7 said:
Considering the Braves are at .500 currently, four more wins would mean—get this—four games over .500; that's not especially impressive, but also entirely fictional, anyways.
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You have to add 4 wins and subtract 4 wins sir if you give the Braves 4 games.
 
We talked about this before, it seems it comes up every time we hit .500, and my take is still the same. If we fire Fredi and say hire someone like former Padres manager Bud Black (who is someone that can manage a bullpen) along with fixing our bullpen then we have a shot. But outside of doing that I don't see us contending for the playoffs all season. I could see a worst case happening though, where we tease just long enough to hold on to pieces we should be trading off (Grilli, JJ, etc). Then we come crashing down like Fredi teams often do by Sept. if not before hand.
 
The next week will probably tell quite a bit.

At Was, and At Pit.

They avoid Burnett and Cole at Pit, i think they get Zimmerman, Fister, and TBD in DC.

But still wouldnt bet on it especially if Freeman doesnt play for awhile.
 
No decisions should be made until mid July but I don't think its smart to completely exclude a chance to add.
 
I think the trade for the Haitian Sensation is a sign that the Braves are committed to a rebuild. They could have spent that money on a player that could help this year's team. Like Papelbon for example. Instead they spent it on a very young prospect.
 
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