#65 GDT 6/12: BRAVES (Santana 5-2) at ROCKIES (Chacin 0-4), 3:10

thethe said:
Is it bad when they are healthy or is it that there are too many negatives in the lineup? I feel like we have really talented players.
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Its a bad lineup. What do we have?

Expectations:

Freeman and J-Up .850ish OPS
Gattis .800-.850
Heyward .750-.775
Johnson .750
BJ .650-.700
La Stella .675-.700
Simmons .675-.700

And no bench at all.
 
NL Average OPS is 700. That is around a 700 OPS based on your projections. I just don't know what it is honestly. It just seems the guys can never hit at the same time.
 
thethe said:
NL Average OPS is 700. That is around a 700 OPS based on your projections. I just don't know what it is honestly. It just seems the guys can never hit at the same time.
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Some of those were pretty optimistic though(homeristic).

Average OBP is .312, the Braves could realistically have 4 or 5 guys below that.
 
thethe said:
TLS needs to be in the two hole.

Heyward
TLS
J-Upt
Freeman
Gattis
Johnson
BJ
Simmons
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I completely agree that the lineup being changed around helps a lot. TLS not being at the top of the lineup is complete ignorance from Fredi. I'd almost move Freddie and Justin around:
Heyward
TLS
JUP
Freeman
Gattis
Johnson
BJ
Simba
 
Fair enough...I do agree that Wrens affinity towards power has really hurt the team because it comes at the expense of OBP. Guys like Gattis/Simmons are fine because they are at premium positions but these other guys not getting on base (BJ/CJ) are killing us.
 
thethe said:
Fair enough...I do agree that Wrens affinity towards power has really hurt the team because it comes at the expense of OBP. Guys like Gattis/Simmons are fine because they are at premium positions but these other guys not getting on base (BJ/CJ) are killing us.
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Only partially. Wren's affinity towards slugs like Upton the Elder and Uggla creates a hole in the budget and line-up.

Move La Stella if you'd like. I'm not a huge believer in line-up construction making that much of a difference, but he's the only guy really hitting now.

I'm of the opinion that Simmons is going to be the most frustrating offensive player we will see in many a year. Good contact guy, but doesn't put the ball in play with that much authority. He's a glove guy, so he more than earns his keep, but the guy has rally killer written all over him.
 
50PoundHead said:
Only partially. Wren's affinity towards slugs like Upton the Elder and Uggla creates a hole in the budget and line-up.

Move La Stella if you'd like. I'm not a huge believer in line-up construction making that much of a difference, but he's the only guy really hitting now.

I'm of the opinion that Simmons is going to be the most frustrating offensive player we will see in many a year. Good contact guy, but doesn't put the ball in play with that much authority. He's a glove guy, so he more than earns his keep, but the guy has rally killer written all over him.
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I agree with the majority of this. The biggest killer for us was signing BJ Upton. I like BJ, I've always been a big fan of the guy, but that killed us. I can't even imagine how much better this team could be if we got someone else. Without Dan, this team is visibly better but not enough to where it's gonna win us consistent games. Nonetheless, this team needs another consistent BP arm, preferably a lefty and a change of the bench. Not resigning Reed Johnson killed us. Little things will do it for you from year-to-year.

Also, how is this awful Chacin dude getting so luck? I call it luck because he sucks, I don't really care, it is.
 
No patience at the plate again today. That kids pitching count was so low last night through six.
 
'Absolute joke that we are getting ready to give this scrub his first win of the season after being basically shutdown by a middle of the road AAA pitcher who was struggling with his control before being called up. The numbers posted on our offense so far this year compared last year is very telling. Hey, Greg Walker! You have any ideas???
 
I can figure out who Santana is. He absolutely cruises and then gives up homers out of nowhere. I like him, but I don't trust him at all.
 
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