BeanieAntics
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Randy Marsh has nothing on you.
Acuna called up
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Randy Marsh has nothing on you.
While 30+ ft/s is certainly 80 grade speed, we are only seeing the ones commentators want to showcase...the best ones. This is not an apples to apples comparison when talking about the average sprint speed of other players with more data collected for them.
When he has enough sprint events to have the same average that's calculated for every other player, we will have his sprint speed. Then we can compare apples to apples. It's looking like that 60 grade speed may have been a little conservative so far though.
There's no need to rush to conclusions and pimp Acuna even more...the hype is already at 9 of 10.
When he has enough sprint events to have the same average that's calculated for every other player, we will have his sprint speed. Then we can compare apples to apples. It's looking like that 60 grade speed may have been a little conservative so far though.
There's no need to rush to conclusions and pimp Acuna even more...the hype is already at 9 of 10.
mine goes up to 11
BeanieAntics
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Yeah I agree with this. I just didn't expect this type of speed, but you are right that there are likely other events that will bring his average down a bit.
Maybe, maybe not. I find it unlikely the entire scouting community missed 80 Grade speed, but it could certainly be better than 60.
We will know for sure soon enough.
Regardless of his speed grade (or the inevitable slump that is coming), it's clear he's a great player.
NinersSBChamps
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Not even going to bother reading through the pages of you guys circle jerking.
Jason Heyward started his career off with a bang too and overall had a solid rookie campaign.
Jason Heyward started his career off with a bang too and overall had a solid rookie campaign.
GeorgiaGirl
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I missed his first HR live. 
nsacpi
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I missed his first HR live.
he pouted
Bluedevilruss
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What a happy life you must lead.
If you have 2 sprints in your first 2 games that are 30+ f/s, I think it's safe to say your speed grade is higher than 60.
They don't have Statcast data in the minors, do they? So it's mostly just observation? Seems like they could hang a 'plus' grade on a guy who is actually elite. And FG had him at 60, but others had him at 70.
msstate7
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More fangraphs' bias favoring braves - thewupk
nsacpi
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the bias only applies to non-Wren players
If you lower the minimum to 5, Acuna's sprint speed is now listed as 28.3.
That is an apples to apples comparison (though still maybe a bit of a SSS) to the other values we use to grade player speed rather than cherry picking the best numbers to splash on a hype graphic.
28.3 is roughly Grade 60 speed. It is not the ~30 value we see from 80 grade guys like Buxton, Turner, Hamilton and Gordon.
Several Braves are faster than Acuna...
LAdams 29.6
Bourjos 29.3
Swanson 29.1
Albies 29.0
I have no doubt this will continue to be debated ignorantly though.
That is an apples to apples comparison (though still maybe a bit of a SSS) to the other values we use to grade player speed rather than cherry picking the best numbers to splash on a hype graphic.
28.3 is roughly Grade 60 speed. It is not the ~30 value we see from 80 grade guys like Buxton, Turner, Hamilton and Gordon.
Several Braves are faster than Acuna...
LAdams 29.6
Bourjos 29.3
Swanson 29.1
Albies 29.0
I have no doubt this will continue to be debated ignorantly though.
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damn. math wins again.
is this not a small enough sample to where another ~30 could raise it tho?
Sure, and another 27 could lower it. His sprint speed is calculated exactly the same way as everyone else.
He's a great player with good speed. Why does this board insist on making him a great player with elite speed?
I realize folks want to turn the Acuna hype up to 11, but come on.
bravesfanMatt
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My hype is 13
See what I did there.
See what I did there.
i'm not, just asking.
BeanieAntics
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To be fair, since I was the one that started this topic I will say that grading speed is something that I am definitely not experienced at. I was under the incorrect assumption that speed could be graded more quickly than it actually should be. So when I saw 30.4 ft/sec I assumed that would put him near the top of the league in top speed. I'm open to numbers changing my mind, which they have.