Affordable Care Act

KeithLockhart said:
It's better than the system that was in place.

I think I've made it clear on here a thousand times I would've preferred public option/single-payer.
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How is it better aside from a few mandates? There's a handful of cool things about it (birth control mandates and extending the time a child is covered) but that's massive undercuts the negatives.

I will never change my opinion, the US needed to go to universal health care and did not, instead they wound up in the middle. I'll use a sports analogy. In soccer the goalie's best areas to defend a 1 on 1 effort are in the net and hoping it gets close enough to him or out in the field where he can cut off the angle. The worst place to be is in the middle which is commonly called no man's land where you're more likely to concede a goal.
 
In 2009-10 there were not the votes for universal single payer. We could "should upon" ACA like Sav said for another 34 pages.

This was the compromise to get the ball rolling. Emphasis on "was". I see this bill historically in the same light as Truman integrating the military. Wasn't the schools or work place but it was a start.

I doubt I'll see single payer in my lifetime
Question
Will you vote pro single payer (single issue) Reps down the road? Because that is what it will take
 
741 people in New Jersey signed up for obamacare. 50,000 signed up for legal online gambling in a week in NJ. Rather get screwed by the house than by uncle sam and friends.
 
CK86 said:
741 people in New Jersey signed up for obamacare. 50,000 signed up for legal online gambling in a week in NJ. Rather get screwed by the house than by uncle sam and friends.
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America is a nation of procrastinators.

How many people do you personally know that wait until the last week or two to file their taxes?

There's no urgency to sign up because we aren't even close to the deadline for sign up.
 
CK86 said:
741 people in New Jersey signed up for obamacare. 50,000 signed up for legal online gambling in a week in NJ. Rather get screwed by the house than by uncle sam and friends.
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more proof that democracy isn't a good option
 
1.46 million of the 1.6 million people who have "signed up for Obamacare" are actually new medicaid recipients. Many of whom had private insurance policies before the ACA took effect but canceled to go onto medicaid. I don't fault those who are signing up for medicaid. If someone else wants to pay for my health insurance I wouldn't turn it down either. But is the new system sustainable?

The CBO projected that about 50% of the newly insured would be medicaid and 50% would be paying for insurance (about 25% would be "young and healthy"). The reality is that 91.25% of those signing up for the ACA are signing up for medicaid. How will this affect the price tag of the legislation?
 
KeithLockhart said:
America is a nation of procrastinators.

How many people do you personally know that wait until the last week or two to file their taxes?

There's no urgency to sign up because we aren't even close to the deadline for sign up.
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But then why did we have to rush such a flawed law through Congress? "We'll find out what's in the bill after we pass it."

We were sold on healthcare reform in large part because people who desperately needed health insurance did not have access to it. So yes, I do think it's reasonable to expect there would be people urgently signing up.
 
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