If you say so.
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If you say so.
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
They could very well have a so-so season or get hurt, or even improve and do well.
Whose to the say the latter cant happen?
I don't mind you saying it but you are saying it in such definite terms as if its impossible for them to be good pitchers. Some of us disagree.
Beachy was NOT a 5 inning pitching in 2012. I don't care what he did in 2011 when he was just getting used to the major leagues.
Alex Wood is a really talented pitcher that got his first taste of the big leagues last year. I believe he will continue to get better because of the poise and stuff he showed last year. I don't see a mild improvement as necessary and a drastic improvement is going to be cost prohibitive. Teams like the Braves will win or lose based on the success or failure of their farm system. It is what it is.
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
They just got Fielder's deal off the books, they have plenty of money.
Only way this makes sense is if they make a push for Choo.
I am not saying they can't be. But I would much rather Beachy and Wood be the 5th/6th starting pitchers than the 4th and 5th starting pitchers.
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
so brave.
bravesnumberone
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And this is why I laugh when people insist we don't have the manpower to get at least pretty darn good starting pitching.
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
We didnt get JUp until around January.
Lot of time to make a move for someone, but if we dont, we gotta ride with what we got.
bravesnumberone
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If I remember right, most of the Braves big impact offseason trades have been made after New Year's.
Different teams value different players differently. Detroit might love the guys they got and they could end up being right.
Winning 96 games as one of the youngest teams in baseball doesn't have you confident about the core moving forward?
Not to win a WS no.
We need major help on the bench. And being an NL team it matters our bench is good.
We need an 8th inning man and another loogy for the pen.
We need 1 SP.
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
I only said so for Price.
Didnt know the Tigers were stupid.
Thats pretty much like Pastornicky/Avilan/Hale
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
Obviously anyone would prefer it, if it were that simple. But, people are worried about what we'd have to give up or the money we'd spend signing a guy like that. Does Josh Johnson definitely make this rotation better? If he gets hurt and pitches like it, we'd regret wasting the time on him. You have to at least see why we have some questions getting a guy like Lohse at all costs. What if they want a better deal than Terdo and Hale? It very well good. Pitching is valuable. If a guy like Wood can develop to a solid starter, and Minor, Teheran, and Medlen improve, we have a gold mine, only not literally, and that's the good thing. Not many teams have a 1-4 as young and talented as Minor, Teheran, Medlen, and Wood. They're still really young and improving, Teheran took a MAJOR stride this year. He's an extremely valuable pitcher right now. I imagine if he were on another team and you just looked at his age and stats, you'd really want to acquire him.
Teams win with worse rotations than that. Teheran could step up for us next year the way Wacha did for the Cards this year. You're being pessimistic.
We need the other things more than a starting pitcher IMO. I just don't see why you are so down on Beachy. Players are coming back from surgery all the time now and he showed flashes last year of solid pitching. He just wasn't ready unfortunately.
I would rather get the SP no instead of during the season when they cost way more. I just don't think Beachy will ever be as good and what people here make him out to be.
Thats fair. I don't think he is going to be a TOR guy but I don't see his floor being lower than a 4/5 guy. He was really good in 2012 before getting hurt.
Also, by the time the trade deadline comes around we might be wondering what someone like Hale/Martin could do in the rotation everyday.