Around Baseball Offseason Edition - Derek Jeter will retire at seasons end

GovClintonTyree said:
Of all the money being thrown around like rappers at a strip club, including that of my most-hated-for-life club the Bankees, the best money being spent is the 3-$45m they gave to Beltran. One of the most underrated players of his generation.

As usual, I don't buy the WAR figures that show him giving back half his offensive value on defense. For a corner outfielder, that's simply not possible. There needs to be some sort of weighting for the defensive metric and it should be different at different positions.
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Have you see Beltran out there lately? He's awful.
 
thewupk said:
Have you see Beltran out there lately? He's awful.
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Well, he's not good, but he catches what he gets to. It's gardner's job to cover the gaps, beltrans job to hit. And he can still rake, and he does his best work in October, unlike every Brave since Joe Adcock, Eddie Mathews and Warren Spahn.
 
GovClintonTyree said:
Well, he's not good, but he catches what he gets to. It's gardner's job to cover the gaps, beltrans job to hit. And he can still rake, and he does his best work in October, unlike every Brave since Joe Adcock, Eddie Mathews and Warren Spahn.
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Chris Johnson didn't choke this year. :Alone:
 
GovClintonTyree said:
Well, he's not good, but he catches what he gets to. It's gardner's job to cover the gaps, beltrans job to hit. And he can still rake, and he does his best work in October, unlike every Brave since Joe Adcock, Eddie Mathews and Warren Spahn.
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I agree that he can still rake. But that's all that he can do now and being in the AL where he can DH from time to time will be good for him. And yes he can catch what he gets to. Most major leaguers can. But his knees prevent him from getting to much.
 
Murphy makes some sense for the right pieces.

He will hit you .285, .330, .420. We could have used that last year for sure. He is average but I can live with average right now.
 
Braves1976 said:
If we lose him to the Nats it could very well cost us the division, esp. since they already added Fister. EOF is a great lefty and the Nats seriously lacked in that area last year. He'd be a huge bullpen upgrade for them so hopefully it doesn't happen.
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Talk about over reaction. He's out until after the all star break.
 
I just read where we are interested in bringing back Freddy Garcia.

Go ahead and hand us the division title now. I call your Fister/Mclouth moves and raise you a Garcia !
 
Braves1976 said:
If we lose him to the Nats it could very well cost us the division, esp. since they already added Fister. EOF is a great lefty and the Nats seriously lacked in that area last year. He'd be a huge bullpen upgrade for them so hopefully it doesn't happen.
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:Gasp:
 
Tapate50 said:
Roy Halladay retires from baseball signing a one day deal with Toronto to retire a Blue Jay.
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Wow! Was I ever wrong about Halladay. I thought he'd pitch until he was 40. Thought his mechanics were solid and the fallback was that he wasn't just a thrower. Just goes to show you what I know.
 
GovClintonTyree said:
Of all the money being thrown around like rappers at a strip club, including that of my most-hated-for-life club the Bankees, the best money being spent is the 3-$45m they gave to Beltran. One of the most underrated players of his generation.

As usual, I don't buy the WAR figures that show him giving back half his offensive value on defense. For a corner outfielder, that's simply not possible. There needs to be some sort of weighting for the defensive metric and it should be different at different positions.
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Are the Yankees going to play Beltran in LF or RF? RF is very manageable at Yankee Stadium and I agree that Beltran is probably the most underrated player of this generation.
 
50PoundHead said:
Are the Yankees going to play Beltran in LF or RF? RF is very manageable at Yankee Stadium and I agree that Beltran is probably the most underrated player of this generation.
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Everything I've heard or read is that he'll be in RF. That leaves Gardner in LF, with Ichiro and Wells as the 4th and 5th OFs (and Gardner as the obvious trade chip).
 
sturg33 said:
They also have Soriono, whom I guess is the DH.

Literally 6 outfielders. And are interested in Ibanez...
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This is why I think the writing's on the wall concerning Gardner. He's the only guy with value that could be included to get a SP or 2B.
 
Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 1m

Sources: #Indians listening on Masterson with idea of exploring longer-term options. Masterson entering final season before free agency.
 
I like the idea of going after Daniel Murphy as well. He is amazingly similar to Chris Johnson. CJ is a lifetime .289/.328/.438 hitter. Murphy is a lifetime .290/.333/.424 hitter. Murphy had an almost identical season to what Johnson had this year back in 2011. If anything I think Murphy is the better player because he plays plus defense at 3B and can play 2B which adds a ton of value. If Johnson regresses next year Murphy would be an ideal platoon partner and La Stella can still play 2B. Maybe its the pain of watching two sub .200 hitters starting every game that makes me highly value batting average. Replace a .190 hitter with a .290 hitter, thats 1 more hit out of every 10 at bats. A little BABIP magic like he had in 2011 and it would be close to 1.5 hits out of every 10 at bats.

I am also getting a bad vibe that the Braves are going to trade for Samardzija. Maybe he becomes that ace so many think we need, I just dont see him being better than a mid rotation starter.
 
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