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Wow, what is the timeframe for a return on that? Is this something that requires surgery?
 
Wow, what is the timeframe for a return on that? Is this something that requires surgery?

Yes. TJ surgery repairs or replaces a torn UCL. The timeframe is 12 months.

If it is a partial tear, they can try rest and rehab. Most partial tears eventually require surgery. But there are exceptions. Ervin Santana for example had a partial tear a few years ago, but up until now has not needed TJ surgery.
 
Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe UCL injuries require Tommy John.
 
It seems more and more pitchers are having to have TJS these days than in the past. Is the pitch counts actually hurting them?
 
This is horrible news. I won't mind seeing hte Mets lose but the game is taking a big hit when you take out one of the top 5 pitchers.
 
Pitch counts per game this year

April
94
110
107
105
90
121

May
105
101
106
116
114

JUNE
100
93
97
116
72
109

July
110
121
112
99

August
110
106
95
86
102
 
Interesting to compare Harvey versus Teheran pitch counts:

Under 100 pitches Harvey 8 Teheran 17
100-109 pitches Harvey 9 games Teheran 6
110-119 Harvey 7 Teheran 1
Over 120 Harvey 2 Teheran 1

I'm surprised how hard they worked this kid.
 
Interesting to compare Harvey versus Teheran pitch counts:

Under 100 pitches Harvey 8 Teheran 17

100-109 pitches Harvey 9 games Teheran 6

110-119 Harvey 7 Teheran 1

Over 120 Harvey 2 Teheran 1

I'm surprised how hard they worked this kid.

It is something to look at moving forward. That being said Tehearn could need surgery at any minute. There is just not exact formula to prevent a pitcher from getting hurt. either they will or won't IMO.
 
It is something to look at moving forward. That being said Tehearn could need surgery at any minute. There is just not exact formula to prevent a pitcher from getting hurt. either they will or won't IMO.

Some of it is just bad luck. But I'm sure a young pitcher with the pitch count profile of Teheran this year has less chance of injury than one with Harvey's pitch count profile.
 
Fredi Gonzalez 1 Terry Collins 0 on this comparison.

Especially when you consider which guy is pitching for a contending team and which guy is pitching for a non-contender.
 
What a joke of an apology. Of course he had to throw it in there like he only did it once (Sure thing Ryan). Then he goes on to make up some ridiculous reason why he slandered Laurenzi. Hey Ryan, you did it because you are a bad person not because you had an internal crisis.

If that was the only ped he did then he wouldn't be suspended now right? This suspension hsd nothing to do with 2011 right.
 
I'm not a fan of hard pitch counts. Some guys should be allowed to pitch more some guys should be monitored more. For example I'd use the kid gloves more for Julio than I would for Minor.
 
Any time a guy has an arm injury, I just assume we won't see them again for a year +. Feel bad for the Mets and Matt Harvey. It just sucks how frequent guys need surgery on their pitching arms and how long it takes for the body to recover.
 
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