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I dont believe xwOBA is a predictor. It tells you about performance but rolling 10 game samples are also inportant to look at.

Bumgarner comtinues to improve as he moves further away from his fluke injuries. HOF pitcher in his prime right now.

Just like Harper is better than Trout right?
 
You can cherry pick anything to suit your stats. What were his stats in his 6 starts before his last 2 (basically all of June)? How about an ERA and FIP north of 4.

Let's just look at season then...
Era = 3.65
Fip = 3.69
K9 = 9.10
Bb9 = 1.86
fWAR = 2.2

We couldn't use that, huh?
 
I dont believe xwOBA is a predictor. It tells you about performance but rolling 10 game samples are also inportant to look at.

Bumgarner comtinues to improve as he moves further away from his fluke injuries. HOF pitcher in his prime right now.

I know, you don’t believe any stats that don’t support your narrative. MadBum as a HOF is questionable and someone who is in their prime should be playing the best baseball of his career. MadBum is a clear step down from where he was 3 years ago and before. I love you thethe but come on man.
 
This whole bum debate is so funny. It is like there is this extreme that makes people think he can either be great or awful. Bum is a good pitcher. Similar to DK he would be our best 3-4 pitcher and very valuable to our chances. I seriously don’t anyone thinks he is an ace anymore. But he is most definitely someone we should be interested in if available. Even a slight overpay is worth getting him. This thing where everyone is trying to make him worse than he is is really comical. He is a good pitcher and better than the shot we have been shoveling in our 4/5 for quite some time.
 
This whole bum debate is so funny. It is like there is this extreme that makes people think he can either be great or awful. Bum is a good pitcher. Similar to DK he would be our best 3-4 pitcher and very valuable to our chances. I seriously don’t anyone thinks he is an ace anymore. But he is most definitely someone we should be interested in if available. Even a slight overpay is worth getting him. This thing where everyone is trying to make him worse than he is is really comical. He is a good pitcher and better than the shot we have been shoveling in our 4/5 for quite some time.

thethe quite obviously thinks he’s a huge ace
 
This whole bum debate is so funny. It is like there is this extreme that makes people think he can either be great or awful. Bum is a good pitcher. Similar to DK he would be our best 3-4 pitcher and very valuable to our chances. I seriously don’t anyone thinks he is an ace anymore. But he is most definitely someone we should be interested in if available. Even a slight overpay is worth getting him. This thing where everyone is trying to make him worse than he is is really comical. He is a good pitcher and better than the shot we have been shoveling in our 4/5 for quite some time.

I think several posters value Bumgarner very accurately...

Worse than:

Soroka
DK
"Fixed" Folty
"Healthy" Gausman
"Rested" Fried

Better than:

"Broken" Folty
"Injured" Gausman
"Blistered" Fried
Teheran
Everyone else

I've said several times he makes sense at the right value, but that I'd prefer Folty and/or Gaus get back to what we expected from them.

If it's determined those 2 SPs can't be relied upon, and Bumgarner can be acquired for the FV 40/45 prospect non-elite rental SPs typically get sold for, then get him.
 
I think several posters value Bumgarner very accurately...

Worse than:

Soroka
DK
"Fixed" Folty
"Healthy" Gausman
"Rested" Fried

Better than:

"Broken" Folty
"Injured" Gausman
"Blistered" Fried
Teheran
Everyone else

I've said several times he makes sense at the right value, but that I'd prefer Folty and/or Gaus get back to what we expected from them.

If it's determined those 2 SPs can't be relied upon, and Bumgarner can be acquired for the FV 40/45 prospect non-elite rental SPs typically get sold for, then get him.

This is my thought too. But it Sometimes seems like some are afraid to like bum because that would make thethe right or something
 
Does he or just better than wright, Wilson, Folty, gasman, Fried, JT? If so, is he wrong?

Direct quote from him about MadBum right now: “HOF pitcher in his prime”

On this page

Maybe it’s weird that I consider only ace pitchers should belong in the HOF

And I clearly said he would be an upgrade and said I am higher on him than I used to be. But he’s not near the pitcher thethe is fantasizing about
 
This is my thought too. But it Sometimes seems like some are afraid to like bum because that would make thethe right or something

come ahn. that is far from it. talking about him like he's an ace is silly. i think every single poster who "doesn't like him" likes him just fine. we just don't think he's a massive upgrade.
 
Let's just look at season then...
Era = 3.65
Fip = 3.69
K9 = 9.10
Bb9 = 1.86
fWAR = 2.2

We couldn't use that, huh?

No one said he isn't a good pitcher or that we couldn't use him. You're acting like he's an ace though, which he isn't.
 
“HOF pitcher in his prime”

This is a factual statement.

Parse out what you think it means in terms of did i mean he is an ace all you want.

Bumgarner is going into the hall and he is currently in his prime years.

Id sign him for 5 years easy this offseason. It seems pitchers are ageing well lately. I think once the player is 30 or over the pitvher is a safer investment than a hitter long term.
 
This is a factual statement.

Parse out what you think it means in terms of did i mean he is an ace all you want.

Bumgarner is going into the hall and he is currently in his prime years.

Id sign him for 5 years easy this offseason. It seems pitchers are ageing well lately. I think once the player is 30 or over the pitvher is a safer investment than a hitter long term.

...
 
This is a factual statement.

Parse out what you think it means in terms of did i mean he is an ace all you want.

Bumgarner is going into the hall and he is currently in his prime years.

Id sign him for 5 years easy this offseason. It seems pitchers are ageing well lately. I think once the player is 30 or over the pitvher is a safer investment than a hitter long term.

You can't be serious.
 
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