They have 80 million coming off the books this season and another 20 million the following year. Their core is pretty awesome even without Mookie and locked up for a long time. Their main issue this year were injuries, their BP, and playing in the AL East.
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They have 80 million coming off the books this season and another 20 million the following year. Their core is pretty awesome even without Mookie and locked up for a long time. Their main issue this year were injuries, their BP, and playing in the AL East.
DD was given a mandate to go win it all and he did just that.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
I think it is a bit more complicated than that. Winning a championship doesn't excuse all.
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
I agree, came at a cost though.
We've had this debate on here about going all in vs having sustained success. A championship is a championship but you shorten your window even if you win it.
Southcack77
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How could something that never happened under someone that is no longer in Atlanta be scary? (or interesting)
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Heyward
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Think he's implying if Coppy never got caught, what else he could have done. Like trade Ozzie for Yelich, which granted wouldnt have been bad, or move Soroka, or someone else for Realmuto. Or sign a big FA to a bad deal, etc.
Southcack77
Well-known member
So what if a trade that never happened was emblematic of more hypothetical trades that never happened?
Seems like a weird thing to worry about.
It is not hard to tear a team down and trade present value for future value. It is also not hard to push all resources to the middle and trade all future wins for present wins, especially when a team has the massive resources of the BoSox.
The hard part is maintaining the long term like the Dodgers (and AA so far). That's what separates the good GMs from the average ones.
Again, 80 million coming off the books at the end of the season.
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
Article came from the Boston Globe, not me speculating.
jpx7
Very Flirtatious, but Doubts What Love Is.
And a good measure of that dead money is from Cherington’s regime, too, so a lot of their current luxury-tax mess is hard to blame on Dombrowski.
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Are we still projecting payroll space by “money coming off the books”?
Have we not yet learned a lot of that cash is already spoken for by built in raises to the current roster?
Guess not.
And yes, odd to fire a guy for going all in as directed by the owner.
winning a WS gives each player 10 testosterones and each fan 3 testosterones.
now who's the derp??
chop2chip
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I think it’s fair to say Dombrowski did the job he was asked to do and did it well.
And given that his contract was up at the end of the season, I think it’s fair for Boston’s management to make a decision DD’s skill set didn’t fit the needs of the organization looking forward.
Similar with players, you pay/hire someone to do the job moving forward, not looking back.
And given that his contract was up at the end of the season, I think it’s fair for Boston’s management to make a decision DD’s skill set didn’t fit the needs of the organization looking forward.
Similar with players, you pay/hire someone to do the job moving forward, not looking back.
Southcack77
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Perhaps through no intention of his own, Dombrowski could be the stand in for the old argument. Would you rather aim for consistent success or to win championships. Marlins or Braves?
Whether it was his choice or the dictates of his ownership groups, his end strategy tended towards the latter. Though he certainly helped build good teams in Montreal, Florida (x2), and Detroit before Boston.
It's perhaps no surprise that he was the employer of Frank Wren, who himself is a lightning rod (though his defenders insist that Wren was a man without agency in his decision making).
I think Dombrowski has had a successful career by any measure.
I think there is an argument that attempts to build for the very long haul, particularly outside of the big markets, is probably a fool's errand. The natural course of baseball is to ebb and flow in relatively short cycles. The Braves are the anomaly that probably won't be repeated often. The Marlins are a reachable goal if you do it well.
I don't think anyone would seriously suggest the Red Sox are down for long, if their current season even qualifies.
Whether it was his choice or the dictates of his ownership groups, his end strategy tended towards the latter. Though he certainly helped build good teams in Montreal, Florida (x2), and Detroit before Boston.
It's perhaps no surprise that he was the employer of Frank Wren, who himself is a lightning rod (though his defenders insist that Wren was a man without agency in his decision making).
I think Dombrowski has had a successful career by any measure.
I think there is an argument that attempts to build for the very long haul, particularly outside of the big markets, is probably a fool's errand. The natural course of baseball is to ebb and flow in relatively short cycles. The Braves are the anomaly that probably won't be repeated often. The Marlins are a reachable goal if you do it well.
I don't think anyone would seriously suggest the Red Sox are down for long, if their current season even qualifies.
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
A lot depends which direction they go this winter. Do they go into a rebuild or short re-tool? But they have some rather large salaries, the farm is barren, and have some players who would bring back alot in return, should be interesting.
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
Do fans have to buy two tickets? One for themselves and one for their massive John Thomas?