Around the Majors - 2022 Version

Garmel said:
For those asking about Rosario

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I don't understand. Didn't he have some sort of laser eye surgery? Why would that type of procedure require someone to effectively be sedentary for a month?

This seems like a major thing he had to deal with.
 
chop2chip said:
I’m curious what it is about his profile that he consistently underperforms his xwoba. Quite significantly.
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Pham was the primary guy I wanted AA to get instead of Rosario, so I've done some digging into this.

The only odd thing I see is his career .858 OPS on the road vs .741 at home. That is the complete opposite of what players usually do home vs road. I mean, how likely is that something about his home stadium always suppresses his offense in 4 different home ballparks? Extremely unlikely.

My guess is there's something about his batted ball spin, like his hits a lot of knuckleballs or topspin flyballs, that isn't factored into xwOBA but does affect the actual outcomes. But he has equally terrible bad luck on grounders as he does on flyballs, so who knows.
 
Enscheff said:
Pham was the primary guy I wanted AA to get instead of Rosario, so I've done some digging into this.

The only odd thing I see is his career .858 OPS on the road vs .741 at home. That is the complete opposite of what players usually do home vs road. I mean, how likely is that something about his home stadium always suppresses his offense in 4 different home ballparks? Extremely unlikely.

My guess is there's something about his batted ball spin, like his hits a lot of knuckleballs or topspin flyballs, that isn't factored into xwOBA but does affect the actual outcomes. But he has equally terrible bad luck on grounders as he does on flyballs, so who knows.
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Thanks for sharing.

I remember a similar thing was discussed the when we signed Ozuna the first time. I believe there was a Fangraphs article that described topspin flyballs. Probably a good assumption it’s something similar.
 
Enscheff said:
Pham was the primary guy I wanted AA to get instead of Rosario, so I've done some digging into this.

The only odd thing I see is his career .858 OPS on the road vs .741 at home. That is the complete opposite of what players usually do home vs road. I mean, how likely is that something about his home stadium always suppresses his offense in 4 different home ballparks? Extremely unlikely.

My guess is there's something about his batted ball spin, like his hits a lot of knuckleballs or topspin flyballs, that isn't factored into xwOBA but does affect the actual outcomes. But he has equally terrible bad luck on grounders as he does on flyballs, so who knows.
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I always wonder how Ichiro and Tony Gwynn would look in the statcast era.

Both hit a long of dinkers, and low exit velo hits to get around the defense. Not saying they couldn't hit the ball hard, but if you look at the highlights for both, they were the masters at slap hits, the "taking it where it's pitched" and just getting a bat on it.

Ichiro would just poke his bat and use his speed to get infield hits. Both had amazing bat control.

How would players like them be valued in today's game? Gwynn was also an OBP machine.
 
The Chosen One said:
I always wonder how Ichiro and Tony Gwynn would look in the statcast era.

Both hit a long of dinkers, and low exit velo hits to get around the defense. Not saying they couldn't hit the ball hard, but if you look at the highlights for both, they were the masters at slap hits, the "taking it where it's pitched" and just getting a bat on it.

Ichiro would just poke his bat and use his speed to get infield hits. Both had amazing bat control.

How would players like them be valued in today's game? Gwynn was also an OBP machine.
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Ichiro's speed would allow him to out perform his xWOBA. Of course his speed/hit tool were both as good as it gets. I'm sure if a player like that came along today he would be considered "lucky" and "unable to sustain" until he performed at that level long enough to give us a base line that it's indeed his true ability. But the same thing can likely be said about most 1% players in a certain area.
 
CyYoung31 said:
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There’s a reason nobody wants this clown.
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Just saw Jocs interview and he said it was over a fantasy football league they were in over a year ago where Joc put a guy on IR and Pham didn’t like it lol. Yeah hard pass on that dude.
 
So the WS attendance bump is real. The Braves are 3rd in attendance average at 37,386 and the first team to crack a million fans this year. On pace to crack 3 million fans for the first time since 2000. Hopefully this means a payroll bump for deadline moves similar to last year.
 
thewupk said:
So the WS attendance bump is real. The Braves are 3rd in attendance average at 37,386 and the first team to crack a million fans this year. On pace to crack 3 million fans for the first time since 2000. Hopefully this means a payroll bump for deadline moves similar to last year.
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I think it will and with the team starting to play better attendance should go up even more. The Swanson situation will be interesting to watch in the offseason. Do we keep him and get a big OF or go big at SS?
 
Austin Riley currently ranks dead last in OOA. Not among 3B, that’s every single player in MLB.

While he is more or less average on plays to his right or left, he is a staggering -8 on plays “In” (I believe these are balls where he is charging in to field and throw). That specific weakness signals a lack of athleticism which isn’t something that can be fixed.

How does everyone else feel about this? I am under no illusion that he’s Arenado, but as a casual fan I would have assumed he would be closer to average (and I think he was actually quite good last year). If Riley is truly this bad at 3B then I wonder what position the Braves can play him at. 1B isn’t an option. I’m not sure he has the body type to play outfield (though he was pretty decent back in 2019).
 
chop2chip said:
Austin Riley currently ranks dead last in OOA. Not among 3B, that’s every single player in MLB.

While he is more or less average on plays to his right or left, he is a staggering -8 on plays “In” (I believe these are balls where he is charging in to field and throw). That specific weakness signals a lack of athleticism which isn’t something that can be fixed.

How does everyone else feel about this? I am under no illusion that he’s Arenado, but as a casual fan I would have assumed he would be closer to average (and I think he was actually quite good last year). If Riley is truly this bad at 3B then I wonder what position the Braves can play him at. 1B isn’t an option. I’m not sure he has the body type to play outfield (though he was pretty decent back in 2019).
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doesn't pass the eye test to me.

I think he's fine over there. All of our guys have been shakier this year than last year, except for Dansby. But I'm not worried about Riley's defense. With Riley I'm more worried he's move of a 250/320/480 guy than the 300/350/550 guy he was last year.

Maybe if they ban shifting his range will be more of an issue and more of an issue as he ages. But if he hits, I'd just let the guy catch what is in his area and use his strong arm.
 
He’s not great but he’s the the worst regardless of what numbers say. He’s not unplayable there. He stays there and we live with it. I think he ranges between average to a little below. He’s not Alec Bohm. You can ignore the noise, that guy is the worst and loses games for his team because he can’t make simple throws.
 
Do they have separate ratings for Riley at true 3b and his shift position at 2b? I wonder if he's getting killed in def ratings bc of the shift position
 
msstate7 said:
Do they have separate ratings for Riley at true 3b and his shift position at 2b? I wonder if he's getting killed in def ratings bc of the shift position
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He is tied for last among 3B playing straight up. He’s measured worse than Bohm.
 
msstate7 said:
I think that's BS. Maybe the sample it's big enough yet.
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Sure there could be some noise. But why do you think it’s BS?

He’s big bodied and isn’t particularly athletic. I think it would be more surprising if he wasn’t bad on defense, to be honest.
 
chop2chip said:
Sure there could be some noise. But why do you think it’s BS?

He’s big bodied and isn’t particularly athletic. I think it would be more surprising if he wasn’t bad on defense, to be honest.
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He wasn't terrible last year, and from watching, he looks fine.

ETA... now I don't watch much mlb other than braves, so I don't have much reference.
 
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