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Carp said:
I mean it isn't good obviously, but they're currently tied for the most wins in the NL and DeGrom hasn't thrown an inning. Their rotation simply goes from the best in baseball with both pitchers, to around league average with both of them out. But certainly, they'll need to make an addition if Scherzer has to miss significant time. Can't expect to win the WS with Bassit, Carrasco, Walker's duck taped arm.
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I like our rotation better than theirs. Their 2 best starters are super injury prone and are both older. IF Soroka does come back then ours stacks up against anybodys. We’ve just had a ton of bad luck and that will even out eventually.
 
Hudson2 said:
I like our rotation better than theirs. Their 2 best starters are super injury prone and are both older. IF Soroka does come back then ours stacks up against anybodys. We’ve just had a ton of bad luck and that will even out eventually.
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HUGE problem here. You're talking about the Mutts having two injury-prone starters in one breath, then mentioning a healthy Soroka in the same sentence. There's an argument to be made that Soroka never throws another pitch in the majors again, so any discussion about him making a contribution - of any sort - is an absolute pipe-dream.

It would be a great story if Soroka made it back far enough to even be a #4/#5 SP for even a year or two, but there's much more chance the Mutts get more significant contributions from Scherzer and deGrom - regardless of how injury-prone they may or may not be.

We're all pulling like crazy for Mike, but he was far from a frontline SP before he tore the tendon the first time - expecting him to be anything like he was prior to that is a bit nuts.
 
A Jack Morris paraphrase: " A 10-9 win counts just as much as a 1-0 win." Unfortunately for the Braves so far this year you can apply the same logic that a 1-0 loss counts just as much as a 7-6 loss. Maybe even more when they occur on back to back days.
 
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clvclv said:
HUGE problem here. You're talking about the Mutts having two injury-prone starters in one breath, then mentioning a healthy Soroka in the same sentence. There's an argument to be made that Soroka never throws another pitch in the majors again, so any discussion about him making a contribution - of any sort - is an absolute pipe-dream.

It would be a great story if Soroka made it back far enough to even be a #4/#5 SP for even a year or two, but there's much more chance the Mutts get more significant contributions from Scherzer and deGrom - regardless of how injury-prone they may or may not be.

We're all pulling like crazy for Mike, but he was far from a frontline SP before he tore the tendon the first time - expecting him to be anything like he was prior to that is a bit nuts.
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Unfortunately I have to agree.

I'm thinking the most I can expect from Soroka is that he can come in and do the Strider role this year. He hasn't thrown and I don't know how stretched out he can get. Maybe he can be that multi inning guy and you can put Strider into the rotation.

I think the best realistic situation for Soroka is you hope he can be healthy and pitch this year. Be healthy through the offseason. Hopefully be a factor next year.
 
clvclv said:
HUGE problem here. You're talking about the Mutts having two injury-prone starters in one breath, then mentioning a healthy Soroka in the same sentence. There's an argument to be made that Soroka never throws another pitch in the majors again, so any discussion about him making a contribution - of any sort - is an absolute pipe-dream.

It would be a great story if Soroka made it back far enough to even be a #4/#5 SP for even a year or two, but there's much more chance the Mutts get more significant contributions from Scherzer and deGrom - regardless of how injury-prone they may or may not be.

We're all pulling like crazy for Mike, but he was far from a frontline SP before he tore the tendon the first time - expecting him to be anything like he was prior to that is a bit nuts.
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That’s why I capitalized IF. Soroka at least has youth on his side where deGrom and Scherzer are about to be 34 and 38 and are the aces of their staff. But regardless Soroka has an up hill battle on his hands for sure.
 
Hudson2 said:
That’s why I capitalized IF. Soroka at least has youth on his side where deGrom and Scherzer are about to be 34 and 38 and are the aces of their staff. But regardless Soroka has an up hill battle on his hands for sure.
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Correct. There is a huge distinction between the Braves getting Soroka back and the Mutts getting sherzs and grom back. Soroka is our cherry on the Sundae. Those two guys are there bowl and ice cream.
 
And Soroka was a front line starter before his injury. Not established, but his pedigree along with success at MLB level is clear frontline guy. His MLB era is bloated due to small sample size with a few bad games before his shoulder went out. And sub 3 is bloated. Lol. Soroka is just injury prone and not reliable in the least bit.
 
Hudson2 said:
I like our rotation better than theirs. Their 2 best starters are super injury prone and are both older. IF Soroka does come back then ours stacks up against anybodys. We’ve just had a ton of bad luck and that will even out eventually.
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I don’t agree we’ve had bad luck.
Duvall and some of the others are just bad now.
Advanced stats show this.
I believe we will get it together and be in the mix for a playoff spot but as of right now we are just a mediocre team and our advanced stats and run differential bare that out.
 
Buzzworm said:
I don’t agree we’ve had bad luck.
Duvall and some of the others are just bad now.
Advanced stats show this.
I believe we will get it together and be in the mix for a playoff spot but as of right now we are just a mediocre team and our advanced stats and run differential bare that out.
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We have had bad luck. But we are just a mediocre team right now. Like you said Duvall is declining. I have no faith in Ozuna even with his stats showing bad luck. We just have to hope Rosario comes back better and someone from AAA can provide a spark.
 
“Bad luck” tells us some of these guys aren’t as awful as their results suggest. It doesn’t mean they are actually amazing players though….just not awful.

The Braves needed help in the OF, and AA failed at adding that help. Anyone who thought guys acquired for free would somehow be the solution for a full season was high on WS glory. I said as much while it was happening.
 
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Enscheff said:
“Bad luck” tells us some of these guys aren’t as awful as their results suggest. It doesn’t mean they are actually amazing players though….just not awful.

The Braves needed help in the OF, and AA failed at adding that help. Anyone who thought guys acquired for free would somehow be the solution for a full season was high on WS glory. I said as much while it was happening.
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I was certainly was high, and I guess it's a little unfair since Rosario is out, but man, this OF makes me long for the days before cable tv and satellite in Mississippi, like it was 5 years ago
 
Enscheff said:
“Bad luck” tells us some of these guys aren’t as awful as their results suggest. It doesn’t mean they are actually amazing players though….just not awful.

The Braves needed help in the OF, and AA failed at adding that help. Anyone who thought guys acquired for free would somehow be the solution for a full season was high on WS glory. I said as much while it was happening.
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Rosario, Pederson, Soler, and Duvall have a combined fWAR of -0.7
 
Buzzworm said:
I don’t agree we’ve had bad luck.
Duvall and some of the others are just bad now.
Advanced stats show this.
I believe we will get it together and be in the mix for a playoff spot but as of right now we are just a mediocre team and our advanced stats and run differential bare that out.
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I don’t know how many 100+ mph exit velo balls have been hit right at people but things like that will equal out over time. I’ll bet that we make the playoffs if anybody wants to take the bet with me.
 
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