Bowman: Braves With Decisions To Make After Disappointing '14

Hudson2 said:
Lol @ Joe Simpson sayin after the game that Fredi should be considered for manager of the year for what he had to work with. Dumbest statement ever.
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I for one don't mind him saying that. Not because it's true, but because typically the Braves aren't the type to throw people under the bus. Who knows if Joe really believes that, but the broadcasters know Fredi personally and probably feel for his situation.
 
mossy said:
I for one don't mind him saying that. Not because it's true, but because typically the Braves aren't the type to throw people under the bus. Who knows if Joe really believes that, but the broadcasters know Fredi personally and probably feel for his situation.
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I've always respected Simpson for the most part but uh no..... Fredi's team underperformed... Not what we were used to during the Cox era. This team right now is on pace to finish below .500.. Look at the talent we have.... We should have easily won 90+ games

He's got to go... And some messages need to be sent. As far as Wren... I'm kinda so so on him. Only deal that I can really bash him for is the BJ Upton deal and that's because I THE DAY of the signing said it was WAY too big a contract for a guy who'd never even made an All Star team, and had averaged like a .240 avg, .310 OBP for a while while K'ing a lot..... Wren gave star type money to a so-so player. But other than that, he's been okay

But Fredi..... very unimpressed with him. We don't know a Larry Bowa type. Just need someone who these guys will respect, will be relaxed under and give their all. Just don't think Fredi gives it to them. Now, who I have in mind? No idea who's out there on the market that would give us that, but we need to find him.
 
Tino25Dynasty said:
I've always respected Simpson for the most part but uh no..... Fredi's team underperformed... Not what we were used to during the Cox era. This team right now is on pace to finish below .500.. Look at the talent we have.... We should have easily won 90+ games

He's got to go... And some messages need to be sent. As far as Wren... I'm kinda so so on him. Only deal that I can really bash him for is the BJ Upton deal and that's because I THE DAY of the signing said it was WAY too big a contract for a guy who'd never even made an All Star team, and had averaged like a .240 avg, .310 OBP for a while while K'ing a lot..... Wren gave star type money to a so-so player. But other than that, he's been okay

But Fredi..... very unimpressed with him. We don't know a Larry Bowa type. Just need someone who these guys will respect, will be relaxed under and give their all. Just don't think Fredi gives it to them. Now, who I have in mind? No idea who's out there on the market that would give us that, but we need to find him.
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First bold: Yes
Second bold: 90 at the very best given the injuries to the pitching staff and the career years that Johnson and Simmons had with the bat in 2013. I just don't see this team as being that talented. The astronomical swing/miss rate on pitches in the strike zone is all that has to be said about our offense.
Third bold: They quit on Fredi. They'd mutiny under a Bowa type.
 
Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale 42s
Now that the #Braves are officially eliminated from playoffs, let the housecleaning begin, w/ John Coppolella looming as strong GM candidate
 
CrimsonCowboy said:
Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale 42s

Now that the #Braves are officially eliminated from playoffs, let the housecleaning begin, w/ John Coppolella looming as strong GM candidate
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I'm surprised Wren is taking this much heat. Seems like they should all be calling for the manager. Will be interesting to see what happens.
 
mossy said:
I'm surprised Wren is taking this much heat. Seems like they should all be calling for the manager. Will be interesting to see what happens.
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I'm really not. He's been extremely impulsive in Atlanta and he had some of that in his year in Baltimore. I think both he and Fredi will be gone.
 
Their probably saying Wren bc Coppolella will be the one to fire Fredi. But I agree with 50. I bet their both gone. This season was terrible. But at least we'll get a top 15 pick.
 
50PoundHead said:
I'm really not. He's been extremely impulsive in Atlanta and he had some of that in his year in Baltimore. I think both he and Fredi will be gone.
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I don't buy on him being impulsive. That being said, he seems to have the blinders on a few times (like the offseason where he signed Lowe and Kawakami) most of his failures are from epic collapses of a player like BJ and Uggla. Which perhaps has to do with coaching, who knows.
 
50PoundHead said:
First bold: Yes
Second bold: 90 at the very best given the injuries to the pitching staff and the career years that Johnson and Simmons had with the bat in 2013. I just don't see this team as being that talented. The astronomical swing/miss rate on pitches in the strike zone is all that has to be said about our offense.
Third bold: They quit on Fredi. They'd mutiny under a Bowa type.
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I actually meant to put "We don't NEED a Larry Bowa type"... lol. Meaning we don't need a complete 180 of what we're used to. But we definitely need someone these players are going to respect. I don't think they do on Fredi.
 
I'm failing to see what exactly Wren has done all that wrong in his tenure, aside from handing out two questionable and expensive contracts while he was operating on a middle of the road budget.

I mean, during his time here he has refused to trade most of our top tier prospects allowing them to flourish in Atlanta, all the while making some pretty lopsided trades in our favor. We've been one of the winningest teams in the majors while he has been here. What more could you ask from a GM?
 
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