Braves acquire Alex Jackson from SEA for Whalen and Povse

Hawk said:
Because the additional responsibilities required to be a successful full-time catcher take time away from a player being able to devote himself completely to other improvements (in this case, offensive growth).
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Eh, I don't know that I buy that. I mean, I get it logically, but there's enough time in a day to get your work in on both.

It requires a player willing to put in the work, though, so as it pertains to Jackson, maybe you're right.
 
Most of the things I've read suggests there is no chance Jackson can move back to catcher.

I think there are a number of factors that affect catchers ability to hit, fine tuning the craft is probably a part of it. The toll it takes is another.
 
Enscheff said:
Especially when one considers that if not for Dave Stewart being a complete buffoon, the Braves rebuild would actually look pretty dire. Remove Swanson and Inciarte from the organization and suddenly the Braves are in pretty awful shape.

When you are playing poker with a bunch of friends, and one of your buddies gets bored and just goes all in on the next hand so he can go watch TV, is the winner of that pot a better poker player than anyone else? Or is he simply the guy that just so happened to have a pair of kings when the stupid friend decided to go all in? Same thing happened with Coppy when he traded Miller.
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Give me a break. Shelby Miller coming off the season he did with 3 years of control was going net a very good return. No one forsaw what happened, but clearly we still could have netted a very good package from some other team if the D-Backs didn't pony up. May be not as good as what we got, but still a very good package.

The rebuild would still be going well regardless of that trade. We'd just be a bit further behind than we are now. But we'd still have Touki, Fried, Wisler, Folty, Newcombe, Mallex, Peterson, Ruiz, and Demerrite all from recent trades. And add all that talent to the talent we've either drafted or signed and it's still an amazingly rich and deep farm system.
 
Carp said:
Give me a break. Shelby Miller coming off the season he did with 3 years of control was going net a very good return. No one forsaw what happened, but clearly we still could have netted a very good package from some other team if the D-Backs didn't pony up. May be not as good as what we got, but still a very good package.

The rebuild would still be going well regardless of that trade. We'd just be a bit further behind than we are now. But we'd still have Touki, Fried, Wisler, Folty, Newcombe, Mallex, Peterson, Ruiz, and Demerrite all from recent trades. And add all that talent to the talent we've either drafted or signed and it's still an amazingly rich and deep farm system.
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Having Ender and Swanson is a blessing but we would still have 6-7 top 100 prospects without them and that is not considering that we were going to trade Shelby and we were going to get a good return. Saying our rebuild would look dire is just someone wanting attention. Very nice of you to give that.
 
Tyler Pike is the PTBNL.

Big kid with nice K numbers and low hits agaibst. But of course walks too many. Braves are real confident in their ability to develop young players.
 
rawwr said:
Is it just me, or do the Mariners seem to have a higher number of prospects flame out than usual?
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It's not just you. They have a heavily scrutinized player development program. It's been a problem since Jack Z ran the show which is ironic since the player development success he had in Milwaukee got him the job in the first place.
 
Interesting pitcher. Maybe a higher ceiling / lower floor version of Michael Mader? I assume he'll be in the AA rotation. A lot of good stuff in the article linked below.

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dak said:
Interesting pitcher. Maybe a higher ceiling / lower floor version of Michael Mader? I assume he'll be in the AA rotation. A lot of good stuff in the article linked below.

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Seems like AA would be the spot, though that seems like a place that could get crowded too.

The Braves really think they can figure out high walk rates or just don't care too much about them...

I think any kind of lefty starter upside isn't a terrible thing to pick up.
 
dak said:
Interesting pitcher. Maybe a higher ceiling / lower floor version of Michael Mader? I assume he'll be in the AA rotation. A lot of good stuff in the article linked below.

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This makes me a bit more optimistic about him.
 
chop2chip said:
It's not just you. They have a heavily scrutinized player development program. It's been a problem since Jack Z ran the show which is ironic since the player development success he had in Milwaukee got him the job in the first place.
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It's on the way to being fixed, but it was a lousy org for a lot of years. Dipoto will get it fixed, but there are a lot of stories like Pike in that system. Guys that were mishandled and have just not come anywhere near their potential.
 
dak said:
Interesting pitcher. Maybe a higher ceiling / lower floor version of Michael Mader? I assume he'll be in the AA rotation. A lot of good stuff in the article linked below.

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Thanks for that article. It almost sounds like the kid has a better head on his shoulders than the people who were handling him.
 
so the braves traded away a truly rare commodity in povse, a really tall guy who can throw pretty hard and never walked anybody while getting pretty close to the bigs in exchange for a cancer who will be out of baseball in a year and a pitcher who is basically the opposite of povse in terms of control and developmental path. just completely moronic. they have all of these pitchers and just can't help but to undervalue the **** out of them. at least this one anyway.
 
chipchildress said:
so the braves traded away a truly rare commodity in povse, a really tall guy who can throw pretty hard and never walked anybody while getting pretty close to the bigs in exchange for a cancer who will be out of baseball in a year and a pitcher who is basically the opposite of povse in terms of control and developmental path.
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Well that's certainly one way of looking at it lol
 
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