Pretty fair trade. Braves give up a decent prospect that is a long ways away for a bench guy and a loogy. obviously, the Braves lose the trade if Caratini does anything in the majors, but it's worth the risk to get ever so slightly better.
Braves Acquire Russell, Bonifacio
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Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
Against lefties. Even BJ hits better than him against righties.
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
Maybe when you include OPS. Bonafacio still hits for a better average against RH(at least he has the last two years).
Is Schafer released yet? Figured Doumit would stay just because he's 3rd catcher.
Maybe when you include OPS? As if BA somehow holds more weight than OPS? Has this board regressed yet again in terms of baseball statistics IQ?
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Not sure if I like this trade. We'll be better off this year but we just lost our best 3B prospect.
Whatever, asswipe. It's a slip on my part. I should have said on base percentage instead of batting average. That's more valuable than overall OPS when evaluating leadoff guys.
ramadon101
Danville Rookie
This is a very good trade for the Braves.
First off, Caratini is hardly a world beater. He's a decent prospect but our evaluators do NOT see him sticking behind the plate long-term. He's likely a 3B in the future, and he projects as an average one at that (offensively). I'm not saying that doesn't have value, but our scouts had some doubts as to whether he would be able to fully develop sufficient power. If he even makes it (which is a long shot), he's likely a .700-.750 OPS 3B in a above-average scenario.. that's got value, but you have to discount it for present value.
If Peraza comes up, we could trade Johnson and install LaStella or Peraza at 3B and not miss a beat.
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
Thanks. I like Caratini, but what you've summed up is the crux of the issue. I used Max Ramirez as a comp and the issues were similar for Max. If he could have handled catching at the big league level, he'd have been something. Couldn't and wasn't.
I don't know if the presence of Edgerton or Bello changed anything vis-a-vis Caratini.
Braves1976
It's OVER 5,000!
Good question IMO.
Nerfherders
Well-known member
I like this trade and I'm glad the Braves at least tried to address some of the holes. I'd love to see Bonifacio in there every day against lefties, whether at CF or 2B. Russell is no great shakes but it's another arm for the bullpen
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
Don't want him replacing Stella! at all. Fine with him replacing BJ against every LHP.
Braves1976
It's OVER 5,000!
I liked Caratini but unlike others here I like Bonifacio too. I am not surprised that some that most dislike him also didn't like Prado like I did (namely Dalyn). I guess I tend to appreciate versatile players like Bonifacio, Infante and Prado more than some others do. Plus I am hoping this means no more Schafer and no more Gosselin as I don't think much of either. Bonifacio being able to play anywhere makes it where we should have no problem upgrading both spots. In other words, we can replace Gosselin with an outfielder since Bonifacio plays everywhere but first and catcher.
I also like Russell too but I really wanted someone that's been stronger vs lefties this year. But I am still happy we made a move rather than none at all.
PS: I still like Hunter in AA and wouldn't mind adding him to our bench.
I also like Russell too but I really wanted someone that's been stronger vs lefties this year. But I am still happy we made a move rather than none at all.
PS: I still like Hunter in AA and wouldn't mind adding him to our bench.
bravesnumberone
Well-known member
Some of you severely lack perspective if you're upset over a catcher in ****ing Rome getting traded.
As for the deal itself, it helps. Not what I wanted by a long shot. But Bonifacio > Schafer, and Russell gives us another arm. I'll reserve other comments, and I have strong ones, about the day for the main trade deadline thread.
As for the deal itself, it helps. Not what I wanted by a long shot. But Bonifacio > Schafer, and Russell gives us another arm. I'll reserve other comments, and I have strong ones, about the day for the main trade deadline thread.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Caratini doesn't have much PT under his belt, but he looked quite good aside from power so far. Walked well, didn't strike out too much, and most importantly can be a 3B or C.
Bonafacio is a FA after this year, Russell is a decent LH reliever we'll have under control for one more season after this. Assuming Bonafacio gives us 1 WAR and we geta bout 1 from Russell it won't be even a little bit of a stretch for Caratini to crush that. Not saying he will.
The more I think about it, the more I like it. Caratini is - by definition - expendable. Russell helps immediately, and Bonifacio is a MAJOR upgrade at a clear point of need. Other than Doumit, we just have no bench. That is no longer the case.
Blockbuster? Of course not, but this certainly helps. Perhaps a lot more than we currently realize. This could win us a couple of games that we might otherwise lose during the pennant chase.
Blockbuster? Of course not, but this certainly helps. Perhaps a lot more than we currently realize. This could win us a couple of games that we might otherwise lose during the pennant chase.
