Braves get Matusz from o's

bravos4evr said:
I would think Groome would be a better bet to be under slot than Lewis. Lots of risk for HS arms to go to college and get injured. but hell, if you look at the history of the draft it seems to be all over the place who goes over slot and who goes under in the top 10 picks.
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Groome wants number 1 overall money.
 
LOL, good luck Brady Aiken if that's the case. If I were a prep arm drafted top ten, I'd sign as fast as I could and report to play. They carry the highest amount of long term injury risk and value loss of any position at any level. I'm not saying take $2m at #3, but if they offer you $5m you counter with $6m and settle at $5.5 m and be happy you have life changing money. Maybe you stay healthy in college and maybe you also perform well, but if you don't, and you fall, you might end up with nothing or settle for $250k from the 4th rd later.
 
Just an odd thought about Matusz ... Just because the Braves are DFA, it doesn't mean that he can't clear waivers, be outrighted and drop off the 40-man. He was DFA, not released outright. He could still stick around with the Braves.
 
Russ2dollas said:
Why would Lewis be under? He's being rumored at 2. He can go back to school.
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he could go back to college for his senior year. But I would still think he slots under. 4 was a little low, I agree.

There has been rumors that he wants to play for the Braves as well. I don't have any sources for it. it might have been blog rumors, I just can't remember.
 
So much back and forth on the top 5 for the draft this year, I think I have seen every possible configuration of Groome, Puk, Lewis, Pint, Moniak , Rutheford and Ray you can get (as well as a few other guys thrown in the mix)
 
I mean Lewis is a local kid like Heyward was. June draft cannot get here soon enough! Heyward grew up a Yanks fan but I think Lewis was a Bravos fan always.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
imagine taking Lewis at 3. I have a good feeling he would under slot by a lot. maybe sign him for 4 million. that leaves you 2.5 million plus the 800 grand to over slot both 40 and 44.. at around 15 pick value..
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The problem is, if you're looking to get a guy projected to go 15-20, you're probably going to have to pay more than that slot value. Because otherwise, there's no reason for him to tell teams in that range he won't for slot value. He has to have a figure from us above that slot in order to have teams shy away.
 
ChadWC said:
I've read Lewis is a big number to sign. He's also got a lot of leverage.
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Not really. If he goes back to school, he loses all his leverage and teams know that. So he has some leverage but not a ton. College juniors often sign for under slot at the top of the draft.
 
smootness said:
The problem is, if you're looking to get a guy projected to go 15-20, you're probably going to have to pay more than that slot value. Because otherwise, there's no reason for him to tell teams in that range he won't for slot value. He has to have a figure from us above that slot in order to have teams shy away.
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true, but let's say a guy projected to go 15th-18th wants more $$$, Braves could maybe throw $3.2m (slot is $2.6 or so avg for 15-18) at him at #40 and then use the #76 spot to go for a guy who only needs $100k to sign. then at #44 they go at slot and are right on track for the rest of their top 10 rds
 
smootness said:
The problem is, if you're looking to get a guy projected to go 15-20, you're probably going to have to pay more than that slot value. Because otherwise, there's no reason for him to tell teams in that range he won't for slot value. He has to have a figure from us above that slot in order to have teams shy away.
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right, I under valued Lewis.. but my math was for a 12th pick slot value.. that is why I said 15th best player. you would be over the 15 slot value by a good bit.

so say Lewis/Groome signs for 5.5. that is 1 million in savings. plus you have 800 grand for 76. lets round up to 2 million for easy math. #40 and 44 have 1.6 and 1.4 respectively. So that is another 3 million. So now you have 5 million for those two picks.

you could then over slot #40 at 3.5 million which is basically #10 slot money and leave the 1.5 for 44..
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you could over slot #40 and #44 at 2.5 million and both of those would be around #23 type players. but you could grab two.
 
bravos4evr said:
I am interested too as the consensus online from scouting experts seems to be that all of the top 10 guys can be had for at or below slot.
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I saw something as well that said he has told teams that he wants #1 money.. that if he doesn't get highest bonus he will go to college. again, I have read a lot of different articles on the draft and some are just fans like you and me blogging.. I wouldn't say that as a fact unless I know who wrote the story.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
I saw something as well that said he has told teams that he wants #1 money.. that if he doesn't get highest bonus he will go to college. again, I have read a lot of different articles on the draft and some are just fans like you and me blogging.. I wouldn't say that as a fact unless I know who wrote the story.
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He would have that leverage this year, but would then be left with no leverage at all next year. Seems kind of like a fairly empty threat and a big risk on his part.
 
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