Braves positional breakdown

nsacpi said:
I'm bullish on the Big 3, which is why I'm at 78 wins.
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Right. Informed Braves homers settle in around 78 wins. Non-homers settle in around 73-75. Uninformed Braves homers think the team can win 80+.

As a Braves homer, I also think they will win more than 75 games.
 
The Braves had an almost historic BAD first half and still managed 68 wins last year.

I certainly hope they are under .500, so we don't make the "we could make the playoffs in a new ball park" knee jerk moves that could hurt us (knowing we would never have a real chance at winning).

I think of how many games that were over before they started with very bad starting pitching and games that were given away by the bullpen last year. I feel both of these areas should be improved.

I feel the projections should be pretty close, but there is a chance if things fell right for us to be in the 80's and I REALLY hope that doesn't happen.

This team really needs to be bad for at least one more year. If not for the new ball park, I don't think they would be "pretending" so much about winning. I think some of you guys think they are idiots in thinking this team could win. I think it's all PR to get the crowds in. They made moves that just an uniformed fan would look at the roster and be excited. I think they know this team is marginally better than last year, but they spin it that way.

Why would they do that? Because after you buy season tickets, it doesn't matter how disappointed you are in the team. It's all smoke and mirrors and they know that....trust me. The only thing they are saying that is actually truthful is the future does appear to be bright.

The only thing about all of these older guys is no matter if they are not the prime WAR studs they used to be...they know how to play baseball. They CAN click now and then and reel off some very nice baseball (like we saw at the end of last year). Can they do that for a whole season?...no. Is it possible under the right circumstances to do that enough for an 80+ win season..yes.

I DON'T want that to happen. It's no mans land. No good drafts picks but also no playoffs. I don't think it will happen, BUT if you would have ask any of us if they would have reeled off the wins they did at the end of the year...pretty much all of us would say heck no.
 
My prediction is 74 wins. But In 1991 I predicted the Braves to win less than that and they went to the World Series.
 
Enscheff said:
Current roster is projected for 73 wins. What upgrades are likely?

Phillips to Albies is maybe 1-2 wins, depending on how long they decide to stick with the below average Phillips at 2B. Now we are at 74-75 wins.

Teheran, Freeman and Inciarte are possibly each 1 win better than the projections. Now we are at 77-78 wins.

What other non-homerific improvements could possibly be made to this roster this late in the game?
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I am predicting changes throughout the season... not just "this late in the game." As I said in my post. None of us know what roster changes are coming. Pretending you can project what an unknown roster will do seems a bit silly.
 
mfree80 said:
I am predicting changes throughout the season... not just "this late in the game." As I said in my post. None of us know what roster changes are coming. Pretending you can project what an unknown roster will do seems a bit silly.
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Pitchers not being a disaster is several wins. That's in the insider article. They gave multiple wins for the new guys all being around 4 ERA.
Albies is an option
Fried and/or Newcombe/Weigel could be an upgrade
Ruiz is not a great player but he could upgrade Garcia.
Peterson could upgrade Neck....at least on D.
And I think the Pen could be good.
 
Russ2dollas said:
Ruiz is not a great player but he could upgrade Garcia.
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I think he will be promoted if he puts in a couple good months in AAA. Not sure if he will be our everyday third baseman, but I imagine he will get at least a couple games a week at third once promoted. The rest of the time he would provide us with a much-needed left-handed pinch hitting option.
 
thewupk said:
I don't see it. Braves actually won 68 games. Should of won 67 games with pythag record. fWAR and bWAR both had the Braves as 67 game winners as well.
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The team that finished the season would not have one 68 games last year over the course of a full season. This is where your undying loyalty to statistical analysis doesn't allow you to be flexible.
 
thethe said:
The team that finished the season would not have one 68 games last year over the course of a full season. This is where your undying loyalty to statistical analysis doesn't allow you to be flexible.
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Oh you mean the team that had a .328 BABIP in the 2nd half last year? Yeah I'm sure that would of carried over for an entire year just like it did when the team started out hot in 2015.
 
thewupk said:
Oh you mean the team that had a .328 BABIP in the 2nd half last year? Yeah I'm sure that would of carried over for an entire year just like it did when the team started out hot in 2015.
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No...the team that had better players than aybar at short and Olivera in left.

Do you deny we had better players at the end of the year?
 
thethe said:
No...the team that had better players than aybar at short and Olivera in left.

Do you deny we had better players at the end of the year?
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I'm not. Kemp and Swanson are upgrades over what we started the year with. However the Braves were not unlucky in 2016. They were not a 74 win team that happened to be unlucky and only win 68. I also feel extrapolating their good offense performance in the 2nd half for what might happen in 2017 is setting yourself up for failure. Many guys hitting over their heads (due to high BABIP's) is not something we should bank on.
 
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