Braves "Kick Tires" on Dozier

Enscheff said:
This is why we can't have informed baseball discussion here. I said Wisler and Blair are not as valuable as De Leon. Further, since the Twins are holding out for more than De Leon, logic dictates they would not settle for a return less valuable than De Leon. Therefore, we can conclude Wisler and Blair are not enough to get Dozier.

I did not say Wisler and Blair are fodder. If I say Trout is better than Freeman does that mean I'm calling Freeman a bum?
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In your opinion. If every poster here other than you is such an "idiot", why on Earth do you spend time here (particularly as much as you do)??? There's absolutely nothing wrong with drawing your own conclusions about what YOU perceive to be logical, but watching you try to explain to everyone how your opinion is the only legitimate one is almost as comical as watching Trump try to convince everyone that he actually has even a minimal grasp of what he's gotten himself (and unfortunately the rest of us) into.
 
clvclv said:
In your opinion. If every poster here other than you is such an "idiot", why on Earth do you spend time here (particularly as much as you do)??? There's absolutely nothing wrong with drawing your own conclusions about what YOU perceive to be logical, but watching you try to explain to everyone how your opinion is the only legitimate one is almost as comical as watching Trump try to convince everyone that he actually has even a minimal grasp of what he's gotten himself (and unfortunately the rest of us) into.
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Did I, or did I not say Wisler and Blair were fodder? Is it true or untrue that the Twins are looking for more than De Leon?

If someone posts something that is factually wrong they are "uninformed". Opinions are not equal to facts, no matter how much you want them to be.

I stated the facts, nothing more. This is exactly like the Sale discussion, a discussi N in which you were dead wrong...as usual.
 
I don't know if it has changed recently or not but the Twins generally look for good control starters that throw strikes. They are a bad team that desperately needs pitching and they could slot those 2 in right away. Teams do place a premium on major league ready players. I am not saying those 2 would get it done but it makes sense to me the Twins would ask for them.
 
Enscheff said:
This is why we can't have informed baseball discussion here. I said Wisler and Blair are not as valuable as De Leon. Further, since the Twins are holding out for more than De Leon, logic dictates they would not settle for a return less valuable than De Leon. Therefore, we can conclude Wisler and Blair are not enough to get Dozier.

I did not say Wisler and Blair are fodder. If I say Trout is better than Freeman does that mean I'm calling Freeman a bum?
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No we can't have informed discussions because you treat other posters like children for stating an opinion.

And your attitude towards those players in past discussions regarding trades certainly insinuates you don't feel those guys hold much value at all in trades.
 
Enscheff said:
Most reports? Like this one?

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/12/brian-dozier-trade-rumors-final-offer-twins.html

That literally says: "Los Angeles is seeking a straight up, one-for-one swap of Dozier and top pitching prospect Jose De Leon"? Reports like that?

Every single thing I've read for the last month was they have settled on De Leon, and the Twins are playing these games trying to get the Dodgers to add another significant piece.

Should I go dig up 10 other links stating exactly the same thing? Where are all these reports suggesting otherwise? In what world would the Twins take a lesser package from the Braves than the one that has been on the table from the Dodgers for a month?
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I was actually referring to the most recent report that you I guess choose to ignore from TODAY:

"While there has been a suggestion that the Dodgers won’t form a package around Jose De Leon to pry Brian Dozier from the Twins, preferring instead to pursue a one-for-one deal, Rosenthal writes that Los Angeles is “willing to include other prospects” to get something done. Of course, it could well be that the issue isn’t so much the inclusion of some other pre-MLB players — surely, the Dodgers could find some expendable pieces to part with — so much as the question whether any are seen by Minnesota as adding significant value."

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/01/market-notes-jays-bruce-as-plouffe-dozier-bautista-trumbo-lefty-relievers-lewis.html

But thanks... you find your 10 other reports that link the same source and article, though. The fact is, we have no idea what the Dodgers have offered or are willing to offer. Its all just rumors. That's the point. Sorry you were so "uninformed"

EDIT: YES... I understand I read this wrong.
 
zbhargrove said:
I was actually referring to the most recent report that you I guess choose to ignore from TODAY:

"While there has been a suggestion that the Dodgers won’t form a package around Jose De Leon to pry Brian Dozier from the Twins, preferring instead to pursue a one-for-one deal, Rosenthal writes that Los Angeles is “willing to include other prospects” to get something done. Of course, it could well be that the issue isn’t so much the inclusion of some other pre-MLB players — surely, the Dodgers could find some expendable pieces to part with — so much as the question whether any are seen by Minnesota as adding significant value."

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/01/market-notes-jays-bruce-as-plouffe-dozier-bautista-trumbo-lefty-relievers-lewis.html

But thanks... you find your 10 other reports that link the same source and article, though. The fact is, we have no idea what the Dodgers have offered or are willing to offer. Its all just rumors. That's the point. Sorry you were so "uninformed"
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Wow, your reading comprehension skills have reached a new low. It says they don't want to form a package around him, meaning they want to do a one-for-one swap with him. Which is exactly what the report says.

Everyone with any knowledge on the subject knows the Dodgers have De Leon on the table. Apparently you misread one report, and that means "most" reports say they aren't offering him in your little world.
 
Enscheff said:
Wow, your reading comprehension skills have reached a new low. It says they don't want to form a package around him, meaning they want to do a one-for-one swap with him. Which is exactly what the report says.

Everyone with any knowledge on the subject knows the Dodgers have De Leon on the table. Apparently you misread one report, and that means "most" reports say they aren't offering him in your little world.
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I did read it wrong and apologize. It was a quick glance earlier today and as I just re-read it, I realized my error. I can at least own up to when I'm wrong.
 
Lots of people aren't that high on DeLeon. Many see him as a 3/4 with durability issues. Some people focus more on his biggest supporters. I'm not really a fan of his.
 
Oklahomabrave said:
Lots of people aren't that high on DeLeon. Many see him as a 3/4 with durability issues. Some people focus more on his biggest supporters. I'm not really a fan of his.
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Durability issues are a definite concern with him, but he was filthy in the Pacific Coast League with a good arsenal of stuff and very good velocity. If he can show he can be durable, he's got all the potential in the world to be a stud. But like you said, so far durability has been a huge question mark.
 
Enscheff said:
Predictably back to name calling, the last bastion of the uninformed. Unsurprisingly, the alpha DumDum has perfected the tactic, and the rest of the Goof Troop derp of approval in response.
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What the? Should I now assume you are uninformed?

Sometimes it's name calling, sometimes it's just true. Can you name one topic you've discussed without being a dick about it?
 
Enscheff said:
Predictably back to name calling, the last bastion of the uninformed. Unsurprisingly, the alpha DumDum has perfected the tactic, and the rest of the Goof Troop derp of approval in response.
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you do realize all you do is name call, right? I'm just checking if you really are delusional or not.
 
zbhargrove said:
But thanks... you find your 10 other reports that link the same source and article, though. The fact is, we have no idea what the Dodgers have offered or are willing to offer. Its all just rumors. That's the point. Sorry you were so "uninformed"

EDIT: YES... I understand I read this wrong.
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This probably isn't the best thread to rag on said poster. Usually, any announcement of a trade rumor will result in at least 4 or 5 of the usual suspects here using it as an excuse to blow hot air with their fantasy league proposals and hypothetical lineups with little basis in reality.
 
smootness said:
What the? Should I now assume you are uninformed?

Sometimes it's name calling, sometimes it's just true. Can you name one topic you've discussed without being a dick about it?
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I'm glad the irony of my post wasn't lost on you. I laid it on pretty thick.
 
Enscheff said:
Predictably back to name calling, the last bastion of the uninformed. Unsurprisingly, the alpha DumDum has perfected the tactic, and the rest of the Goof Troop derp of approval in response.
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I'm just adapting to Trump's America. We've had a big paradigm shift and you've got to make your points with pithy one-liners and under 140 characters. You actually have the insult piece dialed. It's new for me. Lyin' Ted. Crooked Hillary. Asshole Enscheff.
 
Knucksie said:
This probably isn't the best thread to rag on said poster. Usually, any announcement of a trade rumor will result in at least 4 or 5 of the usual suspects here using it as an excuse to blow hot air with their fantasy league proposals and hypothetical lineups with little basis in reality.
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It's always a good thread to rag on said poster. In this case, he was probably right, but he's such a dick it's hard to worry about that.
 
BTW, on a substantive note, I'd like to get Dozier and play him at third and stop talking about platooning 1 WAR Garcia and Ruiz, who has really shown next to nothing.
 
GovClintonTyree said:
It's always a good thread to rag on said poster. In this case, he was probably right, but he's such a dick it's hard to worry about that.
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This has been going on since the Scout days. The dude was one of my first auto ignores here (with gilesfan). Have to confess though, reading the quoted text from that side casino discussion was rather interesting.
 
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