Braves sign Ervin Santana to 1 year 14.1M deal
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Among other things. The guy feasted on the Braves a time or 8 as well.
sgtpepper1972
Creepy Lurking Stalker
Just think, before inflation... Roger Clemens got 20 million to pitch 4 months.
mossy
<B>Hysterical Girlfriend<BR>That Storms Out and</B
Sorry if this has been covered, but I've been away almost all day, and don't want to read all 14 pages.
Do most of you approve of this deal? I know little of Santana, other than that his name was floating around. Where will he pitch in our currently depleted rotation? Is he ace material? Is he as good as Teheran?
Would you guys rather have him, Burnett, or Hudson if we'd had that choice?
I'm personally glad we went out and got SOMEBODY. I feel like spring means something again.
I'm sure gonna miss Kris Medlen. I'm sick about what has happened to him.
Do most of you approve of this deal? I know little of Santana, other than that his name was floating around. Where will he pitch in our currently depleted rotation? Is he ace material? Is he as good as Teheran?
Would you guys rather have him, Burnett, or Hudson if we'd had that choice?
I'm personally glad we went out and got SOMEBODY. I feel like spring means something again.
I'm sure gonna miss Kris Medlen. I'm sick about what has happened to him.
Gary82
Called Up to the Major Leagues
Santana could negate the loss of Medlen. I don't expect anything more than a middle of the rotation pitcher (there's obvious value in that.) Let's just hope Minor, Teheran and to a lesser degree Wood step up.
The Braves just spent a ****load of money for Santana, especially if you count the loss of the pick. It's good to know the Braves are willing to spend money now.
Listen to Medlen speak about the injury. It's heart-breaking.
Santana pitched just about as well or better than anyone in our rotation last yr. If he can keep the ball in the park, he should be good for a mid 3 ERA and 200 innings.
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
I think we're very lucky Liberty opened up the strings of the purse, AND that a guy of Santana's caliber was still a FA and open to coming here.
He could pitch as well as anyone on the roster.
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
Santana is a solid pitcher. Worth $14.1 million? In the current market, probably yes. I like the signing.
Performance has been up and down in his career, but he's been a reliable innings-eater to this point and that's what he'll probably be for us in 2014.
From frangraphs, kind of implies how going to Turner helps a guy like Santana.
At Turner Field, ZiPS projects Santana for a 3.59 ERA, which is certainly serviceable as a mid-rotation guy. While this is a site more dedicated to the stats side of things, Santana has a whole heck of a lot riding on his gamble to take one year this year. He will without a doubt be banking on performing up to his full potential to guarantee he gets a long term offer he is looking for. Whether that actually has an impact on his performance is impossible to know, but I like the fact that he has more than a few motivations for success.
Santana fits the mold of a lot of the Braves pitchers. First off, he has a low walk rate, which is what the Braves focus heavily on in the rotation. Mike Minor, Kris Medlen, and Julio Teheran were all dynamos in this aspect last season, and Santana should continue to pound the zone just as the rest of the staff does. The low walk rate obviously helps his WHIP, an integral fantasy category. Netting a solid 1.14 mark last season, his first year with the sinker, is definitely a good sign. We can expect his BABIP to rise, but again as the Braves should also have a solid defense behind him, it shouldn’t rise at the same level were he to go to a defensively challenged squad. Again, this is a great landing place for Santana due to man factors. Home runs have always been an issue with Santana and they likely will be again this year, but moving to the NL should help him keep that number below 25. If he can continue to pound the zone, the home run issue shouldn’t be too big of a detriment as long as they are more often of the solo variety.
All in all, if you were interested in Santana a week ago, you should be even more interested in him now. His projected ZiPS ERA dropping from 4.26 to 3.59 exemplifies that better than my words ever could.
Claiming Santana is as good as Minor is silly, but he should be a solid middle of the rotation option.
At Turner Field, ZiPS projects Santana for a 3.59 ERA, which is certainly serviceable as a mid-rotation guy. While this is a site more dedicated to the stats side of things, Santana has a whole heck of a lot riding on his gamble to take one year this year. He will without a doubt be banking on performing up to his full potential to guarantee he gets a long term offer he is looking for. Whether that actually has an impact on his performance is impossible to know, but I like the fact that he has more than a few motivations for success.
Santana fits the mold of a lot of the Braves pitchers. First off, he has a low walk rate, which is what the Braves focus heavily on in the rotation. Mike Minor, Kris Medlen, and Julio Teheran were all dynamos in this aspect last season, and Santana should continue to pound the zone just as the rest of the staff does. The low walk rate obviously helps his WHIP, an integral fantasy category. Netting a solid 1.14 mark last season, his first year with the sinker, is definitely a good sign. We can expect his BABIP to rise, but again as the Braves should also have a solid defense behind him, it shouldn’t rise at the same level were he to go to a defensively challenged squad. Again, this is a great landing place for Santana due to man factors. Home runs have always been an issue with Santana and they likely will be again this year, but moving to the NL should help him keep that number below 25. If he can continue to pound the zone, the home run issue shouldn’t be too big of a detriment as long as they are more often of the solo variety.
All in all, if you were interested in Santana a week ago, you should be even more interested in him now. His projected ZiPS ERA dropping from 4.26 to 3.59 exemplifies that better than my words ever could.
Claiming Santana is as good as Minor is silly, but he should be a solid middle of the rotation option.
Teheran_49
Danville Rookie
Yeah it's quite sad that an ace will get 20-30 mill. while a solid pitcher gets about 15 mill.
AUTiger7222
Called Up to the Major Leagues
You can call BJ a lot of things but lazy isn't one of them. There's absolutely no basis whatsoever for that claim. Same for Uggla.
I just think people don't like Ervin because when they saw Braves sign Santana it wasn't Johan.
and yes I know Johan is done
Julio3000
<B>A Chip Off the Old Rock</B>
Medlen is always a great interview. Sadly, he is no less so here. Makes me root for him that much more.
ChapelHillMatt
Approaching Buddy Hernandez Territory
jpx7
Very Flirtatious, but Doubts What Love Is.
my mind has been blown
Julio3000
<B>A Chip Off the Old Rock</B>
So he took the initiative to invent a name for himself, and "Ervin" was what he decided on?