Braves sign Gavin Floyd 1 yr 4M + incentives

With a payroll crunch looming for 2015 I'm not surprised Wren is focused on 1 year deal/reclamation project type additions. Infante at 8 M would have been a reasonable price, but the issue there and with other desirable players is the multiple years.

The looming 2015 crunch also implies that Wren will focus heavily on players whose contracts expire at the end of the 2014 season when making any mid-season acquisitions.

$4M for Floyd is not bad. Not great but not bad.
 
zitothebrave said:
Solid move. Floyd was worth an average of 3.2 fWAR per season. and 3.3 rWAR.

Obviously with him out until July or so he won't touch that. If he winds up at a 1.7 WAR he'll be well worth it.
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Don't really see how this can be questioned honestly.

IF Floyd pitches well enough to earn all the incentives, we're likely getting what we'd have hoped for from Hudson WITHOUT having to commit to him for multiple years.

Unless or until several SPs markets completely implode, we weren't getting better unless Wren traded for it. That may well still happen. That said, getting a better SP on the free-agent market isn't happening unless we're willing to go at least three years, and you're not getting a better Pitcher than Floyd via trade with the Northcrafts/Martins/etc. that many seem to think - no one in our system not named Wood/Sims/Cabrera/Graham has value as anything other than an extra arm thrown in.
 
MadduxFanII said:
I have no strong opinions on this deal one way or the other!
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I feel like saying that without a meme is missing out

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Enscheff said:
$4M-$8.5M is not a depth move for a team with payroll constraints like the Braves. If Floyd is Hudson's replacement in the rotation, and Gamel is the power off the bench, then these are not good enough additions. That $8.5M figure is probably the money Wren had slated to resign Hudson to a 1 year deal.

It looks like Wren is not going to fix 2B, and has made bargain bin reclamation project additions (Floyd, EOF/Venters, Gamel) to fill the other areas of need (rotation depth, BP arms, bench bat). This is shaping up to be a very poor offseason where Wren doesn't adequately fill any of the needs this team has.
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Ugh, what 2B did you want?

I would of liked Kendrick but im not sure we give up much for him.

Im fine with TLS if Uggla keeps sucking.
 
A little more than i thought but not too bad all things considered.
 
Unless the Braves find a taker on Uggla, no way they look for help at 2B. Otherwise it's let Dan try to turn it aroudn or replace with LaStella/Pastor/etc.
 
Not sure what isn't to like about this deal. Floyd has been a good major league starter and could be a big plus by July when we suffer the inevitable injury.
 
zitothebrave said:
Unless the Braves find a taker on Uggla, no way they look for help at 2B. Otherwise it's let Dan try to turn it aroudn or replace with LaStella/Pastor/etc.
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The plan should be:

1) Give Uggla to mid-May to turn it around.

2) If he doesn't turn it around give La Stella or another in-house candidate two months to show they deserve the job.

3) If no one wins the job, do a mid-season trade.
 
Sorry...giving $4 mil + incentives to a pitcher sporting a career era at about 4.50 and prone to the long ball as well as coming off major elbow surgery is STUPID. In no way shape or form will this help us and we will calling for his head.
 
DOB today has him recovering well and starting to throw soon. I wouldn't worry about the incentives; they're no doubt tied to the # of starts and he won't get them if he's a bust.

4 Mill for a competent 5th starter is pretty average. Of course the young, homegrown guys are cheaper but we've already debated the need to add on here and most agree we need to.
 
jsebe10 said:
Sorry...giving $4 mil + incentives to a pitcher sporting a career era at about 4.50 and prone to the long ball as well as coming off major elbow surgery is STUPID. In no way shape or form will this help us and we will calling for his head.
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Correct.
 
seems like a lot of money for a guy that's just had major surgery, never has been all that great, and will miss significant time.

with that said, if this helps to keep wren from giving away young pitching talent in the minor leagues, then i'm all for it.
 
jsebe10 said:
Sorry...giving $4 mil + incentives to a pitcher sporting a career era at about 4.50 and prone to the long ball as well as coming off major elbow surgery is STUPID. In no way shape or form will this help us and we will calling for his head.
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That's short sighted.

Since floyd became a full time starter (2008) he has a 4.15 ERA in the AL. Which equates to a 107 ERA+. As far as homers his park plays a factor. US Cellular is known to be homer friendly park. Turner isn't as bad. That alone is a drop.
 
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