Braves sign Kenley Jansen

I currently have the BP (with 2021 xwOBA) as:

McHugh .233
Jansen .260
Matzek .269
Minter .269
Smith .284
Webb .306
Jackson .311
Newcomb .321 (includes many SP IP)

with Ynoa and Touki penciled in the rotation, and Wright in AAA. There literally isn't a mop up guy on the roster.
 
Enscheff said:
I currently have the BP (with 2021 xwOBA) as:

McHugh .233
Jansen .260
Matzek .269
Minter .269
Smith .284
Webb .306
Jackson .311
Newcomb .321 (includes many SP IP)

with Ynoa and Touki penciled in the rotation, and Wright in AAA. There literally isn't a mop up guy on the roster.
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Do you think Luke-Newk alter long relief/piggybacking to Quinoa and Touks McGee?
 
AA has given a 100 piece tool kit to a guy who can barely change a lightbulb. I suspect I'll be infuriated 3-4 times per week as Snit bungles the BP usage.
 
I guess this counts as the one year backend vet guy I assumed he would get. Except it's for a closer that will actually have an impact in the playoffs.
 
Enscheff said:
I currently have the BP (with 2021 xwOBA) as:

McHugh .233
Jansen .260
Matzek .269
Minter .269
Smith .284
Webb .306
Jackson .311
Newcomb .321 (includes many SP IP)

with Ynoa and Touki penciled in the rotation, and Wright in AAA. There literally isn't a mop up guy on the roster.
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Where does yates fit in?
 
Seems like AA was probably given a big budget and it's basically a use it or lose it situation. So he's using it on whatever he can
 
The last 35 games Jansen pitched last year (including playoffs): 34.2 IP, 2 ER, 49 SO, 0.52 ERA, 0.577 WHIP.

Saw this posted on reddit
 
Enscheff said:
Agreed, and I said the same thing with the McHugh signing. Jansen isn't an elite .200 xwOBA guy like he was in 2015-2017, but he's been a solidly great .260/.270 guy the last 4 years.

I suppose adding 2 very good BP arms is almost the same as adding the legit #4 I wanted, and they come with the added bonus of being lethal weapons in the playoffs when a #4 SP probably wouldn't be.

Oh, and payroll is at $175M now, so DOB is once again clueless, just like we all suspected.
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Per Justin Toscano a good beat writer for AJC

Alex Anthopoulos said the Braves would love to go get an impact starting pitcher, but "that hasn't presented itself -- whether that's free agency or trade -- for us."
 
me for the team AA built:

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bravesfanforlife88 said:
Jansen
Smith
Matzek
Minter
McHugh
Jackson
Yates

That will be crazy. Also tells you a lot about plans with Touki Newk etc
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Guessing Newk fills the Tomlin/swingman role until he loses it - he'll be the mop-up/blowout guy and throw longer pens and side sessions in the event they need an emergency starter on short notice on the road.

Going to be interesting to see how they use Touki with all the SPs at Gwinnett. Some of us have long thought he'd make for a really good late-inning option at the MLB level - will this be the year they finally transition him to that kind of role with a shortage of SP innings to go around in AAA? With Jansen, Smith, McHugh, and Thornburg all potentially leaving following this season it would be nice to have a couple cheap guys ready to step in to at least two of those spots with the possibility of maybe having to extend Dansby and pretty substantial 2023 arbitration raises looming on the horizon.
 
steveAKAslick said:
Per Justin Toscano a good beat writer for AJC

Alex Anthopoulos said the Braves would love to go get an impact starting pitcher, but "that hasn't presented itself -- whether that's free agency or trade -- for us."
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Exactly. You don’t waste 10-15 on a guy like Grienke when he is barely an upgrade over the 8 options available for the final two rotation spots

The braves are about winning in October now. A #4 starter doesn’t move the needle much on that but a fire bullpen does. I personally would have spent that money on another OF but it could be a discretionary fund based on one year cash surpluses. Not sure how sticky this 16m will be moving forward. Will Probabaly depend on attendance more than any other spend.

Guess all those posts mocking the idea of not getting a vet SP look silly now.
 
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The thing I'm pumped the most about having a DH now is 2020 when we did it prevented Snit from getting too cute with double switches and bunts.

So this might help him with better bullpen usage.
 
The Chosen One said:
The thing I'm pumped the most about having a DH now is 2020 when we did it prevented Snit from getting too cute with double switches and bunts.

So this might help him with better bullpen usage.
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Easy to be good with the pen when every option is a stud.

#Snitproof
 
Shocked at the player.
Shocked at the spending.

I would rather used that money on an impact bat. But this is a one year deal. I’d take Rosario and Jansens money and get a conforto.

I think Jansen is and will be better than will smith. I hope this means snit can deploy smith more vs lh. I think smith will now just be the 8 inning guy.

Looks like our rotation is going to be fried who needs frequent breaks, Morton off an injury, Anderson and two people. Shortening the game makes sense.

Could also be a team building strategy based on the expanded playoffs. Stud pen de emphasize starters.

Pens NEVER go as planned. But…
You have a starter do 3 innings in the playoffs and you could finish the game with Jackson, mchugh, minter, matzek, smith and Jansen. You are not dependent on Yates being good.

I think oday will be there. Depth with Webb.

During the season if you only have half available you still feel great about 7, 8,9.

I wonder if the decreased options will impact how the starters are handled.
 
I think the braves are confident they can consistently get a quality 4-5 innings from the collection of 8 guys in play for those past two spots. Whether that be one guy like Ynoa continuing his pre injury leap, a young guy like strider showing he is ready or the most likely scenario a game of piggyback where you get two guys to throw 8-10 innings a week combined.

So many interesting options.
 
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