Acuña’s Bat Flip
NL Rookie of the Year
He blinked. I wanted Soler but he probably wants a truckload of $$$ and Rosario fits a team need. Now get Waters out of CF projections and have Heredia play out there until Ronald is ready.
Braves sign Rosario - 2 yr / 18M (3rd year club option)
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JohnAdcox
Brian Jordan's New BFF
On the potentially valid assumption that team chemistry matters, and that it had a non-zero impact on the post-season run laster year. It certainly matters in other businesses (I hire with that in mind), so it might here. I am on this train. I'd love to see Joc start 2 to 3 games out of five at the corners and DH to keep the others fresh for October. I fully admit that every assumption I just made, including that starters need that much rest or that Joc would be interested, might be wrong.
I would assume Snit is gonna put Eddie at leadoff now when Acuña isn't there.
jpx7
Very Flirtatious, but Doubts What Love Is.
Pham was my preference, given the QO penalties attached to Conforto.
Russ2dollas
10 yr, $185 million Extension
I wonder if the QO loomed extra large this year given we just traded 1/3 of our top 10 guys. Big drafts coming up to restock while we have so many guys on multi year control now.
striker42
Well-known member
The more I look into what Rosario has done the last few years the more I like keeping him. I'm starting to think his abdominal strain was bothering him a lot longer than he let on. We're talking about a guy who hit a HR once every 17 or 18 PAs over the 2019 and 2020 seasons. Suddenly with Cleveland he's only hitting one every 43. He comes to the Braves, gets healthy, and starts hitting HRs once ever 13 PAs (unsustainable but evidence that he might have gotten his power stroke back).
The Braves have better analytics and better info than we have. They traded for a guy that was injured showing they have confidence in his ability. They then re-sign him for two years. AA isn't doing this based on an emotional attachment, he's doing this because he thinks he's still the player he was prior to the first half of last year.
The Braves have better analytics and better info than we have. They traded for a guy that was injured showing they have confidence in his ability. They then re-sign him for two years. AA isn't doing this based on an emotional attachment, he's doing this because he thinks he's still the player he was prior to the first half of last year.
The problem with Rosario is the 5% BB rate leading to an OBP in the .310 range.
There were several options to fill LF with a 1-2 win player, so I don't see the need to give one of them a 2 year deal.
I guess we will see how much folks love this deal when he's in the middle of a .650 OPS month. All Braves fans know about him is that he was hot for a very important month last year, and it is falsely inflating their perception of him.
There were several options to fill LF with a 1-2 win player, so I don't see the need to give one of them a 2 year deal.
I guess we will see how much folks love this deal when he's in the middle of a .650 OPS month. All Braves fans know about him is that he was hot for a very important month last year, and it is falsely inflating their perception of him.
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McCann'sCans
Gwinnett Bound
He only really needs to be just over a 1 WAR guy to be worth $9m. I think he’s got a good chance of being closer to a 2 WAR guy if they think he’s healthy again. I’m good with it.
CyYoung31
Shift Leader
That’s my feeling as well. I guess Rosario can actually play the field, but Soler is a much better hitter.
striker42
Well-known member
Soler was my choice as well. But I get the feeling that he might get priced out of what we felt comfortable giving him.
More or less impossible to argue the fact that there were other (and potentially better) options available, but I'm not so sure there was a better option out there on a one-year contract. McCutchen took one, but his defense has gotten significantly worse and he hit .186 and got on base at a .298 clip against RHPs last season. Pederson got less than I think most of us expected, but he's not the hitter Rosario is even if he gives you the added dimension of being able to fake it in CF for a short period - and I do wonder whether he wouldn't have required a bigger commitment to keep him from going back out west. I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I still think Rosario is perfectly capable of handling RF until Acuna gets back (he's always had a good enough arm) - he's not going to be any worse out there than Soler.
I think the Dickerson signing winds up becoming the shocker - if he handles RHPs as well as he always has and Rosario can fake it in RF as well as Soler did for the first two months of the season the offense isn't going to miss a beat.
McCann'sCans
Gwinnett Bound
I doubt Pederson would've given that deal to anyone else. I know his in-laws reasonably well, and its been pretty clear how badly they wanted to be back in California after reluctantly signing in Chicago last year. Being in SF specifically is a huge bonus for them as both of them grew up in Palo Alto and their families are still there. A team like the Braves would've had to overpay to keep him.
I don't expect Soler to be available on a 1-2 year deal. I expect Conforto to be both too expensive, looking for multiple years, and has the QO. So really to me it was between Pham and Rosario. If the money is comparable, I also would've preferred Pham. He's projected for 2 WAR- double Rosario's projections- and is a better fit in the 2 hole in our lineup with his high OBP. We already have plenty of pop, which is the one area Rosario is an upgrade over Pham. That said, we don't know what Pham is asking for and Rosario is 4 years younger and a known commodity- its entirely possible that they've seen something in Pham's ageing that they don't like and/or that they feel they've unlocked something in Rosario that they fill will make him more of a 2 WAR guy than a 1 WAR guy. Would've preferred Pham, but Eddie is fine.
Russ2dollas
10 yr, $185 million Extension
Also will Snit play him exclusively vs RHP or just put him in LF every day? Hit him in the same place every day?
Rosario is very similar to Duvall for me. You have to be willing to sit out the low BP for the blasts. Ideally put some high OBP in front of them.
I do not get the second year on the deal. Maybe he needed that to get it done. 9 million isn't a ton but it's not nothing.
I'm willing to bet:
1. Pham signs for less than half of what Rosario got, and outperforms him (barring freak injury) in 2022.
2. One of Soler/Conforto sees their market fail to materialize, and signs at a bargain rate.
3. The Braves get none of those better players because AA jumped at Rosario early for no real reason...just like he jumped at Smyly early for no real reason.
My real issue is the timing. Why Rosario now? What's the rush? Were 3 other teams beating a path to his agent trying to sign him? I seriously doubt it.
Rosario should have been Plan C a week from now, not Plan A.
Southcack77
Well-known member
I don't think three weeks before opening day is early.
It is when there are still several better options available.
PawPawMaxwell
Called Up to the Major Leagues
Maybe AA was desperate for a LH OFer?
striker42
Well-known member
Of our biggest gripe is a little bit of an overpay of Rosario, we're pretty fortunate.