Braves Sign Teheran to 6 year extension

[Heyward]

Disagree that it's too early. I think he'll prove much more of a bargain over the long haul while buying out two years of his FA. This can't be viewed negatively. Or can it?

Isnt it 3 FA years with the option?

Even still, i agree its not too early.

 

[NinersSBChamps]

If JT proves to be what many people think, this contract is a steal. The team is counting on him to emerge as one of the games best young starters and all signs point to just that. He'll be paid roughly 5 million a season on average. Imagine if he turns the corner and develops into our ace. Kudos to Frank on this one. I actually love the extension.

How often does this happen when I am thrilled?

 

[clvclv]

Disagree that it's too early. I think he'll prove much more of a bargain over the long haul while buying out two years of his FA. This can't be viewed negatively. Or can it?

By some people around here? Surely you know better than to ask that!!!

 

[jpx7]

Wren has protected this kid from trades since the day we drafted him. He is really special and I like the $$$ figures they signed him for. Not a lot that could hurt us until the later years of this deal if things don't pan out.

Well, technically Teheran was signed as an international free-agent, not drafted, but yes: he's really been handled gingerly by the organization, and this seems to be the culmination of that.

 

[Heyward]

If JT proves to be what many people think, this contract is a steal. The team is counting on him to emerge as one of the games best young starters and all signs point to just that. He'll be paid roughly 5 million a season on average. Imagine if he turns the corner and develops into our ace. Kudos to Frank on this one. I actually love the extension.

How often does this happen when I am thrilled?

Never.

 

[The Tariff King]

Disagree that it's too early. I think he'll prove much more of a bargain over the long haul while buying out two years of his FA. This can't be viewed negatively. Or can it?

Just because he's a pitcher. As a mid market team I'm nervous of giving contract like this to a pitcher

 

[Dalyn]

Disagree that it's too early. I think he'll prove much more of a bargain over the long haul while buying out two years of his FA. This can't be viewed negatively. Or can it?

It isn't about it being a negative overall. It is just risky. The guy is coming off a stressful year. Several of us worry that he won't make it through the year (let alone six or seven) without having arm trouble. There is nothing wrong with stepping back and taking a critical look at the team's deals and needs. Being a fan isn't always about being imperceptive.

 

[Dalyn]

Think about giving this deal to Beachy after 2011 (and you will understand where we are coming from).

 

[cajunrevenge]

Just because he's a pitcher. As a mid market team I'm nervous of giving contract like this to a pitcher

Its 35 million for 6 years. This isn't the kind of deal that kills the team. He could never throw anotger pitch and it wouldn't be as bad as 2 contracts we have now.

 

[Heyward]

Just because he's a pitcher. As a mid market team I'm nervous of giving contract like this to a pitcher

It's about 6-7 per year, not a massive long-term commitment.

I dont disagree honestly but its a risk to take.

 

[Dalyn]

Its 35 million for 6 years. This isn't the kind of deal that kills the team. He could never throw anotger pitch and it wouldn't be as bad as 2 contracts we have now.

That's certainly true and all, but it would still be a bad deal. You can't move on from bad deals with the mindset that it doesn't matter what happens because nothing could be as bad as the mistake made with Uggla.

 

[The Tariff King]

Its 35 million for 6 years. This isn't the kind of deal that kills the team. He could never throw anotger pitch and it wouldn't be as bad as 2 contracts we have now.

It's not the same. At least with Ugg amd BJ you know there's a chance of getting back. Teheran could get injured more likely than either bj or dan

 

[clvclv]

Just because he's a pitcher. As a mid market team I'm nervous of giving contract like this to a pitcher

Given how much the arbitration landscape is likely to change in the next few years with the huge amounts of revenues pouring into the game, I honestly can't see how anyone can consider this anything other than possibly the best move Wren's made yet. Teheran's deal is for less money than the Giants gave Madison Bumgarner. If the option is picked up the deal is for roughly $6.35 million per AAV. Medlen makes $5.8 million this year and his number will climb. Jason Hammel's getting $6 million this year. Jason Vargas is getting $7 million.

Joe Blanton - $7.5 million
Kyle Kendrick $7.675 million
Jaime Garcia - $7.875 million
Trevor Cahill - $7.9 million
Josh Johnson, Brett Anderson, Phil Hughes, and Jeremy Guthrie - $8 million
Rick Porcello - $8.5 million
Scott Kazmir - 9 million

As for his option year...

Scott Feldman, Chad Billingsley, and Ricky Nolasco are all making $12 million this year.

Does anyone honestly not think Julio will outperform every one of those Pitchers? If not, something catastrophic has to happen to keep him from doing so.

 

[Deester11]

By some people around here? Surely you know better than to ask that!!!

FUNNY. Sad, but funny......and true.

 

[NinersSBChamps]

It isn't about it being a negative overall. It is just risky. The guy is coming off a stressful year. Several of us worry that he won't make it through the year (let alone six or seven) without having arm trouble. There is nothing wrong with stepping back and taking a critical look at the team's deals and needs. Being a fan isn't always about being imperceptive.

Honestly I hope they put some sort of cap on JT. Innings limit isn't as effective as a pitch limit for the season. I don't know what number, but something to try and ease him along is a good idea I think.

 

[Heyward]

Given how much the arbitration landscape is likely to change in the next few years with the huge amounts of revenues pouring into the game, I honestly can't see how anyone can consider this anything other than possibly the best move Wren's made yet. Teheran's deal is for less money than the Giants gave Madison Bumgarner. If the option is picked up the deal is for roughly $6.35 million per AAV. Medlen makes $5.8 million this year and his number will climb. Jason Hammel's getting $6 million this year. Jason Vargas is getting $7 million.

Joe Blanton - $7.5 million
Kyle Kendrick $7.675 million
Jaime Garcia - $7.875 million
Trevor Cahill - $7.9 million
Josh Johnson, Brett Anderson, Phil Hughes, and Jeremy Guthrie - $8 million
Rick Porcello - $8.5 million
Scott Kazmir - 9 million

As for his option year...

Scott Feldman, Chad Billingsley, and Ricky Nolasco are all making $12 million this year.

Does anyone honestly not think Julio will outperform every one of those Pitchers? If not, something catastrophic has to happen to keep him from doing so.

That and the top SP's in baseball make like 20+ mil a year.

Any longterm deal with pitchers is risky, there is no argument in that but its one to take if you are Frank Wren imo.

 

[Deester11]

Just because he's a pitcher. As a mid market team I'm nervous of giving contract like this to a pitcher

I hate long term contracts for pitchers. I look at it from another perspective however. The days of us going out and snagging another Greg Maddux is probably gone. Long gone. At least we lock up our young talent for a reasonable amount.

 

[Dalyn]

Honestly I hope they put some sort of cap on JT. Innings limit isn't as effective as a pitch limit for the season. I don't know what number, but something to try and ease him along is a good idea I think.

They should've held him back at the beginning of last year. That was a huge mistake that they scrambled to fix in September, and it exploded in their face in the playoffs.

 

[Heyward]

They should've held him back at the beginning of last year. That was a huge mistake that they scrambled to fix in September, and it exploded in their face in the playoffs.

 

[The Tariff King]

Given how much the arbitration landscape is likely to change in the next few years with the huge amounts of revenues pouring into the game, I honestly can't see how anyone can consider this anything other than possibly the best move Wren's made yet. Teheran's deal is for less money than the Giants gave Madison Bumgarner. If the option is picked up the deal is for roughly $6.35 million per AAV. Medlen makes $5.8 million this year and his number will climb. Jason Hammel's getting $6 million this year. Jason Vargas is getting $7 million.

Joe Blanton - $7.5 million
Kyle Kendrick $7.675 million
Jaime Garcia - $7.875 million
Trevor Cahill - $7.9 million
Josh Johnson, Brett Anderson, Phil Hughes, and Jeremy Guthrie - $8 million
Rick Porcello - $8.5 million
Scott Kazmir - 9 million

As for his option year...

Scott Feldman, Chad Billingsley, and Ricky Nolasco are all making $12 million this year.

Does anyone honestly not think Julio will outperform every one of those Pitchers? If not, something catastrophic has to happen to keep him from doing so.

I get the arbitrary differences.

However we've done a better job at producing pitching than position players. The money should be prioritized on Heyward or Simmons. As a mid market team I would rather not give these extension this early. Especially after a year in which he was gassed and had a few of the Jorge Houdini outings.