Braves Sign Teheran to 6 year extension
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MadduxFanII
Swallowed by Mark Bowman
If the option year is just $12 million, then I assume the years before that will be cheaper, including the first FA season. If so, then I'm on-board. This is basically the Braves betting on their evaluation of Teheran, and the organization has earned the benefit of the doubt when it comes to evaluating pitching.
THATS AWESOME! if hes not worth the 12m at that point we can decline the option. I dont see that happening though. Kind of wish Minor would also be extended. If you were to extend Minor what numbers are we talking about.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Minor is further along so he would need more money. For a 6 year deal it would probably be 6/40-45 at least
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
From the info available I'm guessing the numbers look like this:
2014: 500K
2015: 600K
2016: 4M
2017: 6M
2018: 9M
2019: 11M
2020: 12M option with 1M buyout
Probably a small bonus up front.
It is a good contract if he is a 2 WAR/year player or better. Pretty likely given he was a 2.4 WAR player last year.
I've always felt the priority should be on Heyward, Freeman, Simmons rather than the pitchers. But this contract is pretty modest and should not preclude signing Heyward and Simmons later.
There is some downside risk since any pitcher can regress or get hurt. But it is a reasonable risk to take given the upside. If Teheran develops it could be a Chris Sale type contract situation.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
It is easier to get an extension done on club friendly terms with guys like Teheran and Simmons who are not even in their arb years. Minor, Medlen and Upton will be more costly, significantly more costly. Makes me think they are much less likely to get extensions. I see Upton and Heyward as either or. We're not likely to hold on to both long term.
KB21
Where's My Cup of Coffee?
I've heard that there have been discussions with Simmons on a long term deal, but I cannot verify that. I've got a feeling he will be next up though.
My worry is he might have TJ surgery one of those years.
Remember they tried to change his mechanics to preserve him long term but they reverted back to his old mechanics.
This is the EXACT kind of contract a team with a middle of the pack payroll must make with young talent. The only way to get FA years for cheap is to guarantee the arb years for the player. The player gives up some potential FA money for financial security. If Julio turns into anything resembling an ace, this is the only way the Braves could keep him around past his 6 years of team control. This was a risk they had to take if they want to extend the competitive window.
Guys like Medlen and Minor did not prove their floor was a solid starting pitcher until much later in their careers, so extending them when they are already in arb will be nearly impossible. There is an outside shot for a Minor extension though I imagine.
Extending Simmons should be the top priority now.
Guys like Medlen and Minor did not prove their floor was a solid starting pitcher until much later in their careers, so extending them when they are already in arb will be nearly impossible. There is an outside shot for a Minor extension though I imagine.
Extending Simmons should be the top priority now.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Lets say he misses a full season somewhere in that period. The loss to the team is 2 WAR. So he would have to average 2.5 WAR in the other four years to make up the loss. There is some cushion built in here so it could still be a decent contract if he misses a full season. Still some risk of course. He could turn into a replacement level pumpkin. Stuff like that happens.
We can only hope.
Nice signing. I think it's cleart the guys the team is going after is Freeman, Teheran, Simmons. There is only so much money to go around. I think locking up Simmons and Minor next would be prudent.
Its time to float Heywards name out there and gauge the interest.
Its time to float Heywards name out there and gauge the interest.
Haha.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Would create a hole in the outfield with no obvious replacement. Pretty big dropoff to Doumit and Terdoslavich. A free agent like Nelson Cruz would be inferior and more expensive.