Braves sniffing around on Markakis; Official 4 years 44 million.

BRule said:
WAR is stupid LOL

Anyways.......

Heyward hasn't even hit his prime, he's only going to get better. You're using Markakis when he was 26-27-28 and he was really good, so his career numbers are skewed. He's been awful the last 2 years and is only getting older. Again, he had a 680 OPS in 2013 and 700 in the second half of last year....he's a fine player for 2 years and 10-12 mil TOTAL not PER YEAR, anything over that is just dumb.
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WAR is an awful statistic... plenty of articles written about it.
 
Why are people so focused on what Heyward was gonna make? Let's focus on the fact that we just gave big money to a low .700 OPS guy in decline with below average defense and poor base running.

Saying he is gonna make less than Heyward is terrible spin.
 
thethe said:
Yes because you can feel more comfortable with positioning and jumps off the ball. Not sure how that isn't a fact.
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That plays a very minimal part. Actual talent (speed, taking correct routes, etc) is way more important. And to think it's not is lunacy.
 
Joel Sherman ‏@Joelsherman1

If #Braves follow through with Gattis in LF now Markakis in RF, trading Justin Upton became more likely
 
atl717 said:
Why are people so focused on what Heyward was gonna make? Let's focus on the fact that we just gave big money to a low .700 OPS guy in decline with below average defense and poor base running.

Saying he is gonna make less than Heyward is terrible spin.
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Heyward was a low .700 OPS guy... and you're really going to try and call him a below average defender and poor base runner? You're just grasping there. The dude has won 2 gold gloves... now I'm not saying he's Hewyard in the field, but lets not get ridiculous and call him a BELOW average defender. That's just plain dumb. And please show me how he's a poor base runner... I can't wait to hear your answer on that one.
 
atl717 said:
Why are people so focused on what Heyward was gonna make? Let's focus on the fact that we just gave big money to a low .700 OPS guy in decline with below average defense and poor base running.

Saying he is gonna make less than Heyward is terrible spin.
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Big money? How about we wait and see how the rest of the offseason plays out. I'm pretty tired of hearing about Heywards defense. We all know he's probably the best defensive RF in baseball but we needed to upgrade offensively and our pitching if we want to compete. Markakis is currently an upgrade offensively over Heyward. We're adding a veteran presence who is consistent and can actually hit lefties.
 
Heyward said:
Heyward is better offensively but he's gonna cost twice as much as Markakis.
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And he's 3 times the player. I know some people around here don't buy into the price per WIN. But it's a real thing. And for hitters right now the price per WIN is in the 8-10 million range which is quite a bit higher then last year. The average to above average players (like Markakis who is as average as they come) will get that amount. The high end player like Heyward will get less per win. That's why is it wise to invest in those players because they give you more bang for your buck. At 25 million a year Heyward would be signing for about 5 million per win.

To put it in other words. The Braves would need to spend about 35-40 million on the open market for these average to above average players to fill the missing production that Heyward brought.
 
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