Braves Spring Training news and roster competition

dak said:
Another thing I'm wondering now that I look at Banuelos' Minor League stats . . . does he qualify for a 4th option year? Players that have 5 or fewer "full" professional seasons (defined as 90 days on the active list) qualify for a 4th option. He didn't play in 2013 and almost certainly didn't have a "full" season in 2012 when the elbow issues started and he was shut down. So his "full" seasons look to be 2009, 2010, 2011, 2014, and 2015. So, there's at least a chance he has that extra option year.
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The info below seems to indicate that Banuelos does in fact have the 4th minor league option year.

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dak said:
Bowman sees things differently than DOB . . .

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We don't need to burn developmental innings with Kendrick. Banuelos has looked very good to me when healthy.

As for Perez, I'm not sure he's the guy. But I do know that when analyzing pitchers, many of the usual metrics go out the window when you're dealing with a sinkerballer. Lower K/9, more hits and contact may be acceptable if everything is on the ground. Also two pitches is all they need, as long as the change (or slider) is a good one.
 
sturg33 said:
what do you disagree with?
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lineup Adonis will platoon with KJ and that combo will produce above replacement level, LF will be HO not Bourn and will be productive... Inciarte will be much better than Maybin in the field and on Offense.. Aybar will be fine, but agree will be a big drop off from Simmons..

Pitching... Julio at best is mid rotation.. Bull ****.. he pitched better than that up until last year.. Wisler will be below 4 ERA and Chacin has a career ERA below 4 and that is spending a lot of time in Colorado.. Norris had a down year last year and could bounce back.. ManBan was very good in limited exposure last year and will be good this year..

BullPen.. Grilli is a question mark.. but Viz is more than serviceable.. Simmons will add depth and Chris W. will be good. Not to mention all the other arms competing this spring. Our pen will be worlds better this year.

Overall, we will be bad, but not sub 70 wins bad. We have a better team than this time last year.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
lineup Adonis will platoon with KJ and that combo will produce above replacement level, LF will be HO not Bourn and will be productive... Inciarte will be much better than Maybin in the field and on Offense.. Aybar will be fine, but agree will be a big drop off from Simmons..

Pitching... Julio at best is mid rotation.................(some content left out) ..... he pitched better than that up until last year.. Wisler will be below 4 ERA and Chacin has a career ERA below 4 and that is spending a lot of time in Colorado.. Norris had a down year last year and could bounce back.. ManBan was very good in limited exposure last year and will be good this year..

BullPen.. Grilli is a question mark.. but Viz is more than serviceable.. Simmons will add depth and Chris W. will be good. Not to mention all the other arms competing this spring. Our pen will be worlds better this year.

Overall, we will be bad, but not sub 70 wins bad. We have a better team than this time last year.
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You are a little more optimistic than I am, as you are kind of predicting some things that I am merely hoping, but nevertheless.......preach on, brother.
 
I wouldn't call that article inaccurate but it's not particularly insightful. There are some things I disagree with. First is the fact that it calls Teheran a middle of the rotation starter. If he's fully healthy he's a very good number 2 type starter and it's easy to forget that he's just 25. Also, calling Inciarte a "modest upgrade" over Cameron isn't right. Cameron's WAR was 1.0 last year. Inciarte's was 3.3. Inciarte is a better hitter and better fielder.

But my biggest complaint is that it ignores the chance that we have someone breakout. While I wouldn't call failing to predict breakout players an inaccuracy, it is a lack of insight. We have a bunch of players who could potentially breakout this year. Peterson was good before the thumb injury, if that was his real issue then he could bust out this year. Folty has tremendous potential and only needs a little improvement in a few areas to take a leap forward. Wisler is generally thought of as a number 3 starter but him breaking through that ceiling isn't out of the question. Then there are a ton of rookie phenom candidates. Guys like Sims, Newcomb, or Jenkins could put it all together and take the league by storm.

Breakout players are hard to predict but with so many young guys standing to get significant playing time, there's a very good chance we get one or two that exceed expectations.

Conversely, this team doesn't have a ton of big time disappointment candidates. The biggest chance we have for a player to come in and underperform is Olivera. And honestly, I think the impact of that would be limited. It looks to me like the organization is already starting to prepare a bit for him busting. They don't seem to be as reliant on him being an important piece for us over the next few seasons as they were when we traded for him.

So predictions like those in that article are pretty pessimistic. I don't think this team comes close to competing but I could see it reaching the mid 70's in wins.
 
striker42 said:
I wouldn't call that article inaccurate but it's not particularly insightful. There are some things I disagree with. First is the fact that it calls Teheran a middle of the rotation starter. If he's fully healthy he's a very good number 2 type starter and it's easy to forget that he's just 25. Also, calling Inciarte a "modest upgrade" over Cameron isn't right. Cameron's WAR was 1.0 last year. Inciarte's was 3.3. Inciarte is a better hitter and better fielder.

Conversely, this team doesn't have a ton of big time disappointment candidates. The biggest chance we have for a player to come in and underperform is Olivera. And honestly, I think the impact of that would be limited. It looks to me like the organization is already starting to prepare a bit for him busting. They don't seem to be as reliant on him being an important piece for us over the next few seasons as they were when we traded for him.

So predictions like those in that article are pretty pessimistic. I don't think this team comes close to competing but I could see it reaching the mid 70's in wins.
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The more I think about it, the more bizarre that trade looks.
 
?@KevinMcAlpin
Carpenter: "its the game. They've got to make decisions that are best for the Atlanta Braves and I understand that (1/2)...

Carp contd: "but also appreciate the fact theyre trying to think of me on this. It stings, especially being back around some familiar faces"
 
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