Well, we're not adding $10 million overall. We're basically paying $1.5 million more in 2016 money than we would under your plan to just release him.
Braves trade CJ for Swisher, Bourn, $$$
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Well, we're not adding $10 million overall. We're basically paying $1.5 million more in 2016 money than we would under your plan to just release him.
So we take on 29 million for next year and receive 10 million plus get out of 17.5 million for 2016 and 2017.
Strange deal, but some logic in it. Take on 2 terrible players and give up 1 to free up money for 2017. They might as well just cut Swisher/Bourne
This is why guys like Upton/Heyward/Cespedes are off the table in the off season.
I would have preferred to just take a prospect in return of those 2 contracts, but the Indians may not have been interested in that.
Strange deal, but some logic in it. Take on 2 terrible players and give up 1 to free up money for 2017. They might as well just cut Swisher/Bourne
This is why guys like Upton/Heyward/Cespedes are off the table in the off season.
I would have preferred to just take a prospect in return of those 2 contracts, but the Indians may not have been interested in that.
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
At most the difference is a few million when you factor in CJ's 2017 salary. With them souring on Maybin, I think they were willing to pay that for Bourn alone.
goldfly
<B>if my thought dreams could be seen</B>
Hart already came out and said that
keithlaw
Playing the Waiting Game
We owe them about $9 million more this year than we do Johnson as well.
But the 2017 market is even worse than the 2016 one. The only OF who will be under 30 is Travis Snider, and the best names that will definitely be available at a corner OF spot or 2B/3B/C are Jay Bruce, Josh Reddick, Michael Saunders, Justin Turner, Luis Valbuena, and Jason Castro. The SP market isn't even close to 2016's.
Saying, 'we have a lot of money to spend for 2017' is fine, but if there's not much to spend it on, it really doesn't help us.
I would rather us go after a significant piece or two this offseason in FA, someone likely to retain value for the next 3-4 years at least, than to plan to sit back and do it all in 2017.
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
I actually expect them to do something like that. Keep 2017 cheap and pull a Marlins trick if it doesn't work out.
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
You can still sign someone next year and just keep their contract cheap in 2016/17.
This year's money doesn't matter. We're not using it to do anything anyway.
weso1
<B>Clique Leader</B>
If they bounce back then it's possible their option could kick in.
keithlaw
Playing the Waiting Game
We could have used it to take on another bad contract to get a prospect back.
weso1
<B>Clique Leader</B>
Especially consider that eventually the Braves will get a new tv deal sometime in the 2020's. So they could back load heavily and not really be hurt by it later on.
You'd have to pay them more in years in which we're really trying to go for it then, though, and suddenly the CJ contract in 2017 doesn't look that bad in comparison.
If someone is willing to do it.
Oklahomabrave
Anytime Now Frankie...
I see that Cunnigham got called up? Who moves we just added players.
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
And that wouldn't be a bad thing. That would mean they likely performed well enough to unload at the deadline.
The D-Backs are stupid; we can't use that deal and assume we can keep making similar ones. If a team is looking to unload 2015 money at this point, they're dumb. The trade deadline has passed.