Braves Trade Deadline Rumors
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tvsportscaster
Approaching Buddy Hernandez Territory
Just wanted to mention, that the Garza could possibly affect the Braves. Now that the Cubs are getting Olt back from the Rangers to play 3B. Does that now make Luis Valbuena expendable, and if so, perhaps a Jeff Russell/Luis Valbuena trade to Atlanta. Just thinking out loud here.
CrimsonCowboy
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Braves continue pursuit of LH relievers including: Oliver Perez SEA; Mike Dunn MIA, Glen Perkins (unlikely), Scott Downs and James Russell
Braves continue pursuit of LH relievers including: Oliver Perez SEA; Mike Dunn MIA, Glen Perkins (unlikely), Scott Downs and James Russell
Heyward
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Perfect Cell
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Im actually fine brining dunn back
Heyward
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Dunit24
Awaiting a Promotion
Simmons(we know Fredi isnt moving him out of this spot)
Heyward
JUpton
Freeman
McCann
Uggla
BUpton
Johnson
Schafer, Laird, Valbeuna, Gattis, Terdoslavich
Hudson
Minor
Teheran
Beachy
Medlen
Kimbrel, Walden, Avilan, Wood, Russell, Varvaro, Carpenter
Is this team good enough to win a World Series?? If not, ask yourself, what else would we need...thats what Wren needs to determine.
Heyward
JUpton
Freeman
McCann
Uggla
BUpton
Johnson
Schafer, Laird, Valbeuna, Gattis, Terdoslavich
Hudson
Minor
Teheran
Beachy
Medlen
Kimbrel, Walden, Avilan, Wood, Russell, Varvaro, Carpenter
Is this team good enough to win a World Series?? If not, ask yourself, what else would we need...thats what Wren needs to determine.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
I'd say it has about a 10% chance. And anything that Wren could conceivably do might push the odds up to around 12%. What do you think?
Dunit24
Awaiting a Promotion
Not a good chance at all to be honest. I think we need to make a splash. Get an ace or another big bat. Something to kind of shake up the roster a bit. Guys have gotten too comfy.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Thing is no team has a better than 15% chance. I'm just point out that winning in the post-season is mainly a matter of luck (see Giants last season for a recent example). General managers at this point can make moves that affect things at the margin. We need to be realistic about that.
I think a lefty for the pen is probably the one move we should make this this trade deadline. The cost will not be too high and the need is obvious. But it will not dramatically change the odds of our winning the world series. Those will go up from about 10% to about 10.5% if we get a good lefty.
Tapate50
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Ken Gurnick of MLB.com reports that the Dodgers are not pursuing Cuban right-hander Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez.
The Dodgers have been considered one of the favorites to sign Gonzalez, with one general manager recently telling Peter Gammons of MLB.com that the club could be willing to go to five years and $50 million, but it appears that they have backed out of the running. The Braves, Cubs, Yankees, Red Sox, Rangers, Phillies, Blue Jays, Twins, and Marlins are among the other teams who have reportedly shown interest in the 26-year-old right-hander. It's believed that he could sign somewhere as soon as this week.
The Dodgers have been considered one of the favorites to sign Gonzalez, with one general manager recently telling Peter Gammons of MLB.com that the club could be willing to go to five years and $50 million, but it appears that they have backed out of the running. The Braves, Cubs, Yankees, Red Sox, Rangers, Phillies, Blue Jays, Twins, and Marlins are among the other teams who have reportedly shown interest in the 26-year-old right-hander. It's believed that he could sign somewhere as soon as this week.
Yep, that's the thing that everyone misses (and in my humble opinion has missed for the last 20 years). If you have 8 relatively equal teams in the playoffs (ignoring the silly one game wild card game) the chances of any one team winning is 12.5%.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
The interesting thing about the current team is that one or two of our power hitters could get hot and carry us through a playoff series or two. People like to complain about this team's inconsistency. But I don't see that as a problem. Inconsistent teams can win the WS if they get on a hot streak at the right time.
Dunit24
Awaiting a Promotion
I understand the odds. Thats pretty much common sense. My point is we would have a better shot at winning it with a better team. Think about the 90s if we got a closer. Odds were equal then, but no one is doubting that we win it all if we had a Kimbrel type closer back in the day.
Even if we get Russell and Valbeuna, I hope Wren isnt satisfied, and was wondering what areas of the ball club you guys would think we would still need to improve. Should we sell high on Johnson or just figure his .330 average is legit?
Even if we get Russell and Valbeuna, I hope Wren isnt satisfied, and was wondering what areas of the ball club you guys would think we would still need to improve. Should we sell high on Johnson or just figure his .330 average is legit?
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
After the fact it is easy to say having this player or that player would have made a difference. But ex ante, having Kimbrel rather than some of those other closers would have only increased our chances of winning the WS by 1 or 2 percentage points.
Dunit24
Awaiting a Promotion
I disagree respectively. If JS had traded for a Kimbrel type closer, we have more than 1 title. Period. I agree that its easy to look back and say oh if we had this, we would have won, but to my point - You look at our roster. What can we possibly do to prevent saying "oh if we had done this, etc.." in the offseason? Dont ever be satisfied. I feel like Wren and Fredi are satisfied, and I feel like its going to bite us in the butt. Weaknesses are there. Address them. Throw odds all day long but look at a team like Pittsburgh. Ok they have the same odds no matter what they do and if they add an impact player or two, sure they odds just go up percentage points, but id much rather face Pittsburgh with the team they have right now rather than if they trade for a good SS and a good OF.