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cajunrevenge said:
"Wright is a bad pick who will probably be a setup man if anything in the majors"



Cajunrevenge June 2017



"Lol he thinks a player is a bust because of 20 MLB innings"


People on the internet




Please do tell me how his MLB innings in late 2017 affected my opinion of him in June of 2017 before he had even signed with the Braves.
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Pitchers bust, and Wright May very well bust.

Where are the quotes of you saying who you wanted instead?
 
zbhargrove said:
I'm sure you watched a ton of his college starts lmao

No substance in any of your posts from then... nothing to back your opinion up besides just saying words. No scouting to back you up, no numbers, no anything... so why am I supposed to be impressed?
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Not my fight (for once), but this brings up a rather interesting question...

Exactly how many of Wright's college starts did you personally watch?
 
clvclv said:
Not my fight (for once), but this brings up a rather interesting question...

Exactly how many of Wright's college starts did you personally watch?
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opinions were high from the overwhelming majority of people who did in fact watch his starts and scout him closely.
 
Super said:
opinions were high from the overwhelming majority of people who did in fact watch his starts and scout him closely.
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I was a huge fan of the Wright pick at #5, which is odd because I wasn't a fan at all of the Anderson pick at #3.

Logic dictates that if I wanted a position player like Lewis in favor of Anderson, I should have wanted a position player like Adell or Hiura in favor of Wright.

Maybe I'm too in love with college players (Lewis/Wright) due to some aversion to the risk of all HS players?
 
Enscheff said:
I was a huge fan of the Wright pick at #5, which is odd because I wasn't a fan at all of the Anderson pick at #3.

Logic dictates that if I wanted a position player like Lewis in favor of Anderson, I should have wanted a position player like Adell or Hiura in favor of Wright.

Maybe I'm too in love with college players (Lewis/Wright) due to some aversion to the risk of all HS players?
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Also my recollection is that Wright was rated to go higher and "dropped" to us at #5. While Anderson was rated lower and we seemingly "reached" to take him at #3. Not that I put much stock in the draft boards that get published. I think we wanted Senzel badly the year we took Anderson but he went at #2. Senzel IS the player we hope Riley develops into.
 
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Super said:
opinions were high from the overwhelming majority of people who did in fact watch his starts and scout him closely.
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Which has absolutely nothing to do with my question.

zbhargrove - "I'm sure you watched a ton of his college starts lmao"

If you're basing your opinion on something you've read somewhere, just say it. Nothing at all wrong with that. Just stop trying to ridicule someone expressing an opinion when you personally didn't attend a bunch of his college starts either.

Lots of folks around here try to pawn themselves off as "experts" with information they got from someone else. Unfortunately they take it personally when you explain that you're capable of reading those reports too.
 
And some people like to pawn themselves off as lifetime members of the Internet writers association and make blog posts suggesting the Braves could get Sale for Tyrell Jenkins...and then try to claim they “don’t really care” when others point out just how little they know.
 
clvclv said:
Which has absolutely nothing to do with my question.

zbhargrove - "I'm sure you watched a ton of his college starts lmao"

If you're basing your opinion on something you've read somewhere, just say it. Nothing at all wrong with that. Just stop trying to ridicule someone expressing an opinion when you personally didn't attend a bunch of his college starts either.

Lots of folks around here try to pawn themselves off as "experts" with information they got from someone else. Unfortunately they take it personally when you explain that you're capable of reading those reports too.
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That's irrelevant to the discussion honestly. Cajun is the one that said he thought Wright would be a set-up man at best the day we drafted him. That is/was a highly irregular viewpoint that warrants criticism.

For example, I've watched zero starts of last year's No. 1 overall pick Casey Mize. If someone were to state that they think he's a future set up man at best, well I'd have to call them out on that, seeing as the the overwhelming consensus of baseball experts disagree with such a statement.
 
I wanted Adell from the first time I read about him. He was risky, but his ceiling was always what we're seeing now. And Wright's current struggles drive home the point that all draft picks are risky and there is no such thing as a floor that is above 'never becoming anything.' That's not to say Wright will never become anything, but it's certainly possible at this point.

Having said that, I was definitely ok with the Wright pick. When I wanted Adell badly, I didn't really think we had a good shot at Wright. I think I still would have preferred Adell over him, but I also felt like that was a potentially stupid opinion to have based on consensus.
 
Having seen a lot of Adell here in Louisville, the kid obviously had all the tools and potential but kid also had a lot of swing and miss in his bat. There were questions about his ability to consistently make contact. They have obviously helped in that regard so far in his career.
 
UofL_Braves said:
Having seen a lot of Adell here in Louisville, the kid obviously had all the tools and potential but kid also had a lot of swing and miss in his bat. There were questions about his ability to consistently make contact. They have obviously helped in that regard so far in his career.
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For sure, which is why he was risky. But those are precisely the guys I want to take chances on because when they hit, they are difference-makers.

I don't really care if we hit on 80% of our draft picks if hitting for them means they become an average-ish player.
 
clvclv said:
Which has absolutely nothing to do with my question.

zbhargrove - "I'm sure you watched a ton of his college starts lmao"

If you're basing your opinion on something you've read somewhere, just say it. Nothing at all wrong with that. Just stop trying to ridicule someone expressing an opinion when you personally didn't attend a bunch of his college starts either.

Lots of folks around here try to pawn themselves off as "experts" with information they got from someone else. Unfortunately they take it personally when you explain that you're capable of reading those reports too.
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This is why most of the posters here have lost patience with you. You quote zbhargrove's post but leave out the second line, which is the key point:

"No substance in any of your posts from then... nothing to back your opinion up besides just saying words. No scouting to back you up, no numbers, no anything... so why am I supposed to be impressed? "

This is not difficult reasoning to follow. If cajunrevenge said something that disagreed with the more or less universal opinion of scouts at the time, he needs to back it up with a reason for the disagreement. In this case, Wright's stats were excellent, so he couldn't use those, and since he didn't cite any dissenting scouting reports, his only option left would've been scouting Wright himself, hence the zbhargrove post. On the other hand, zbhargrove was not disagreeing with the consensus, so he does not need to have watched any of Wright's college games.
 
rawwr said:
This is why most of the posters here have lost patience with you. You quote zbhargrove's post but leave out the second line, which is the key point:

"No substance in any of your posts from then... nothing to back your opinion up besides just saying words. No scouting to back you up, no numbers, no anything... so why am I supposed to be impressed? "

This is not difficult reasoning to follow. If cajunrevenge said something that disagreed with the more or less universal opinion of scouts at the time, he needs to back it up with a reason for the disagreement. In this case, Wright's stats were excellent, so he couldn't use those, and since he didn't cite any dissenting scouting reports, his only option left would've been scouting Wright himself, hence the zbhargrove post. On the other hand, zbhargrove was not disagreeing with the consensus, so he does not need to have watched any of Wright's college games.
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Wow it’s like every one in the board understands simple logic except for clv
 
cajun: The earth is flat!! I've said so since it was drafted!!

zb: hmm, that's not what every scientist in the world says, what scientific experiments have you done to prove this?

clv: derp...what scientific experiments have YOU done to prove it's round?

everyone: dafuq?
 
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