Chattanooga Shootings

You linked an article that tells a history we all know about. Where is this "ah-ha" moment where we all see the brilliance of Zito?
 
What ah-ha moment? That I don't think this was carried out by ISIS? A group 10 years old has this level of power? Do you even know how hard it is to do this this? THey brainwashed someone that fast? Crock of ****.
 
zitothebrave said:
What ah-ha moment? That I don't think this was carried out by ISIS? A group 10 years old has this level of power? Do you even know how hard it is to do this this? THey brainwashed someone that fast? Crock of ****.
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You don't seem to understand how strong of an appeal Islam has on young males. Brainwashed this fast? Whose to say this didn't take place over a long period of time? Do you have any facts?

You also act like no 0art of ISIS existed prior to 10 years ago. ISIS is just a grouping of prior radicals just like all these other groups.
 
thethe said:
You don't seem to understand how strong of an appeal Islam has on young males. Brainwashed this fast? Whose to say this didn't take place over a long period of time? Do you have any facts?

You also act like no 0art of ISIS existed prior to 10 years ago. ISIS is just a grouping of prior radicals just like all these other groups.
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Long time?

And I'd love to see this information you have on the appeal of Islam on young Males. As the millennials are largely a religious.

ISIS is around 13 years old. They were massively oppressed by Saddam Hussein before that. I don't think they were recruiting sleepers in the US when they couldn't get **** done in their own country.
 
zitothebrave said:
Long time?

And I'd love to see this information you have on the appeal of Islam on young Males. As the millennials are largely a religious.

ISIS is around 13 years old. They were massively oppressed by Saddam Hussein before that. I don't think they were recruiting sleepers in the US when they couldn't get **** done in their own country.
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You are using your data on milleniuls as it pertains to the Western World. There are still a large percentage of the population of the middle east, Africa and South America that are religious people.

ISIS is just a name. These groups are created from others who have been in the terrorist business for ages. You think a group of people got together without any involvement in other groups and said lets create a terrorist group?
 
zitothebrave said:
What's more believable, thjis guy was an ISIS sleeper, an organization that hasn't existed for very long, or that ISIS (which was created by our government) wasn't behind it and US plotted this. Seriously, don't see it? I wish I could be as trusting of the people in power as you.
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What's more believable is he was a disturbed man in search of a purpose or meaning and for some reason proceeded with this violent end.

But yeah, sure govt run operation to pump us up about terror is more likely.
 
thethe said:
You are using your data on milleniuls as it pertains to the Western World. There are still a large percentage of the population of the middle east, Africa and South America that are religious people.

ISIS is just a name. These groups are created from others who have been in the terrorist business for ages. You think a group of people got together without any involvement in other groups and said lets create a terrorist group?
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ISIS is just a name. It's one of many terrorism sects that were created and propped up by members of the Military Industrial COmplex. Knowing full well the cycle would continue as it has for 70+ years and they would become enemies we could rally around killing.

THey got together because we ousted Saddam, instilled a Shiite government, and told everyone else to go **** themselves. THen we started propping them up (which was their big rise to fame and fortune) in our neo-cold war battle against Russia by training and supporting Syrian Rebels who were primarily ultra-conservative Islamic rebels. History just keeps repeating itself, and you just keep falling for it.
 
Tapate50 said:
What's more believable is he was a disturbed man in search of a purpose or meaning and for some reason proceeded with this violent end.

But yeah, sure govt run operation to pump us up about terror is more likely.
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He could be deranged, but if anyone tries to pin this on ISIS or Al-QUeda in the government then the jig is up. I get it that mass shootings happen in this country cause of people with mental illnesses having access to firearms. But again, if anyone says this is ISIS officially or uses this to beat the war drum, I know where it came from .
 
zitothebrave said:
He could be deranged, but if anyone tries to pin this on ISIS or Al-QUeda in the government then the jig is up. I get it that mass shootings happen in this country cause of people with mental illnesses having access to firearms. But again, if anyone says this is ISIS officially or uses this to beat the war drum, I know where it came from .
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So you've basically created a reality where there is zero chance this is a terrorist relayed activity. Very convenient.
 
zitothebrave said:
He could be deranged, but if anyone tries to pin this on ISIS or Al-QUeda in the government then the jig is up. I get it that mass shootings happen in this country cause of people with mental illnesses having access to firearms. But again, if anyone says this is ISIS officially or uses this to beat the war drum, I know where it came from .
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No, no you wouldn't.

You may think you do, but truly you are just spit-balling. At best.
 
thethe said:
So you've basically created a reality where there is zero chance this is a terrorist relayed activity. Very convenient.
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Because there is effectively a 0% chance this is a terrorist related activity. You do realize why terrorists do the things they do? I'm not a military expert, but I can understand the reasoning behind the majority of the attacks. Attacks like this one serve no strategic value to a terrorist organization.
 
Tapate50 said:
No, no you wouldn't.

You may think you do, but truly you are just spit-balling. At best.
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Those that have been strongly against terrorism being a big issue are doubling down in the face of what is clearly going to be the biggest challenge to the free world in history. Sadly, it's going to take many more attacks before people like Zito realize what we are facing.
 
thethe said:
You are trying to use logic to explain fanaticals. That's your biggest problem.
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Because if they were a threat they'd use logic. If they aren't a threat they'd do moronic stuff like this. Which leads me to believe, there's no logical chance of their involvement.
 
thethe said:
Those that have been strongly against terrorism being a big issue are doubling down in the face of what is clearly going to be the biggest challenge to the free world in history. Sadly, it's going to take many more attacks before people like Zito realize what we are facing.
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We're facing nothing. Even if radical Islamic terrorists are as dangerous as you pretend. I'm more likely to be killed by damned near anything than them. I don't see the value of pouring hundreds of billions into fighting a non-real enemy.
 
zitothebrave said:
Because if they were a threat they'd use logic. If they aren't a threat they'd do moronic stuff like this. Which leads me to believe, there's no logical chance of their involvement.
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The goal is to create terror. That is achieving a goal despite how random and irrelevant you feel it to be.
 
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