Democrat Debate?

Free school for illegals, high minimum wage, no way to pay for either, but no mention of crippled war veterans or taking care of them.

Dummicrats really politicizing.
 
"And we'll be able to do it because we'll make the wealthy pay for it!"

I don't know about anyone else, but this line made my skin crawl.

You and me both.

There is no way in hell that would fly though. The middle-class would have to pay for it.
 
The media fawning over Hillary today is just disgusting. Apparently there was loud cheering from the media room when Sanders stupidly stated that he was tired of Hillary's email scandal. Hopefully the people will go with what they saw rather than what the media is telling them they saw.
 
Sanders didn't seem prepared for Hillary to attack -- he actually didn't even seem prepared to debate. Clinton decimated him (and everyone else).

Is this the beginning of her rebound?
 
"And we'll be able to do it because we'll make the wealthy pay for it!"

I don't know about anyone else, but this line made my skin crawl.

The line of thinking always amazes me. They always accuse the rich of finding ways to shaft the middle class. While that's true in some ways what makes her think the wealthy wouldn't wiggle around what she plans to do as well?
 
The media fawning over Hillary today is just disgusting. Apparently there was loud cheering from the media room when Sanders stupidly stated that he was tired of Hillary's email scandal. Hopefully the people will go with what they saw rather than what the media is telling them they saw.

Further proof that Bernie is a kook. That whole server situation proves that Hillary is not fit to be president. Even if it's proven what she did was all legal what kind of an idiot treats classified info like this? She put our nation at risk with her stupidity.
 
OK, you guys help me out here and make sure I have this down correctly. The top 10% of Americans own about 84.5% of all wealth in this country (which you can easily verify if you want to) this process has gotten MUCH worse since the 1980s, this leaves the bottom 90% of us, which would, I'm assuming, include each and every one of us NOT named Vol, to fight over the remaining 15.5%, so that would be 90% fighting over 15.5%. Since this process is just that, a process, this trend will continue unless something is done to reverse it, which cannot be done without violating numerous moral, ethical, religious, and socio-economic absolutes on a par with re-instituting human sacrifice so therefore it simply can't be done, and even if it were done the wealthy, who I'm assuming would have to be the source most affected by any changes, would simply "wriggle out of it". And worst of all since this is a democracy that is supposed to belong to "we the people, ie all the people" will not allow anything to be done about it which will lead to the whole damn place to come crashing down around our ears in the next, say 15-20 years we are absolutely, utterly, totally, and completely, powerless to do anything about it, except pontificate on message boards about how nothing can be done about it.

Is that fairly close?
 
OK, you guys help me out here and make sure I have this down correctly. The top 10% of Americans own about 84.5% of all wealth in this country (which you can easily verify if you want to) this process has gotten MUCH worse since the 1980s, this leaves the bottom 90% of us, which would, I'm assuming, include each and every one of us NOT named Vol, to fight over the remaining 15.5%, so that would be 90% fighting over 15.5%. Since this process is just that, a process, this trend will continue unless something is done to reverse it, which cannot be done without violating numerous moral, ethical, religious, and socio-economic absolutes on a par with re-instituting human sacrifice so therefore it simply can't be done, and even if it were done the wealthy, who I'm assuming would have to be the source most affected by any changes, would simply "wriggle out of it". And worst of all since this is a democracy that is supposed to belong to "we the people, ie all the people" will not allow anything to be done about it which will lead to the whole damn place to come crashing down around our ears in the next, say 15-20 years we are absolutely, utterly, totally, and completely, powerless to do anything about it, except pontificate on message boards about how nothing can be done about it.

Is that fairly close?

It's called revolution. It's not exactly unfathomable and it's not always drastic. The Occupy movement put the disparity of wealth in this country on the mind of virtually every citizen. I can't help but think we're working in a positive direction in terms of reform (or, at least, awareness) in that area -- obviously we put that progress in danger if we elect a shill like Clinton or Bush. I don't buy the one way track to hell sentiment. You can't produce another contemporary model which would even remotely support it. Seems kind of like that dude who predicted the apocalypse two years ago and has kept modifying the date ever since.

The masses are asses, though. One should never discount the sheer and unforgivable ignorance of an electorate (or individual) who would support a candidate like HRC.
 
Bernie isn't a shill for Hillary. He's not going to beat her by going negative and attacking he'll have to beat her by policy and rhetoric.

Going negative backfired for Hillary against Obama big time. Bernie's people are smart. They didn't jump Hillary in the polls this much by being incompetent.
 
Bernie isn't a shill for Hillary. He's not going to beat her by going negative and attacking he'll have to beat her by policy and rhetoric.

Going negative backfired for Hillary against Obama big time. Bernie's people are smart. They didn't jump Hillary in the polls this much by being incompetent.

He doesn't have to go negative, just stay neutral. He gave Hillary her best moment of the night.
 
Bernie isn't a shill for Hillary. He's not going to beat her by going negative and attacking he'll have to beat her by policy and rhetoric.

Going negative backfired for Hillary against Obama big time. Bernie's people are smart. They didn't jump Hillary in the polls this much by being incompetent.

No, they aren't.

There was no excuse for him not going head to head with her when she went negative (which was like, what, the first question?). This is the weakest that Hillary has been in her entire political career and to not take advantage of that reality was just sheepish and a wasted opportunity. They all tip-toed around it -- but nobody was going to take her on directly, because she would have accused them of engaging in a GOP-esque witchhunt, and given that the room was clearly chock-full of Clinton supporters, that would have looked bad on TV.

Ironically, Clinton was the only one on the stage who acted like she had balls. She was concise, eloquent, and oozed confidence. It was painfully evident to me that somebody had told Sanders, 'When it gets rough -- go to the issues' ... so the dude rambled incoherently about his platform but it was all out of place and involved a lot of frustrated looking gesticulation, eye-popping, vocal intonation. He was drastically ill-prepared to defend himself on some MAJOR issues (like the Brady Bill fiasco or the Social Dem. thing [really, you can't think of a better answer than: Look at Sweden, Norway, and Finland!]) I was hoping Jim Webb would whip out a little of the crazy on her, but knew he was in for a rough night when he couldn't remember how many children he had (and really, what the **** was the point of naming them? Who gives these people jobs?)

Anyways, I think Sanders could absolutely beat Clinton on the issues, and I have no idea why he wasn't more inclined to aggressively delineate what was DIFFERENT between his viewpoints and the rest of the people on stage.

He had his lunch handed to him.
 
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Not to piss on your parade, but Ron Paul won a lot of Internet polls too and we saw where that got him.

That said, it wasn't the dominant landslide CNN and others are claiming.
 
Not to piss on your parade, but Ron Paul won a lot of Internet polls too and we saw where that got him.

That said, it wasn't the dominant landslide CNN and others are claiming.

Yeah but that was because Ron Paul fans were the only republicans young enough to be able to use the internet
 
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