Ground breaking advances are expensive. You think these things come easy?
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Ground breaking advances are expensive. You think these things come easy?
sturg33
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Yeah he does.
This is the same dude who wants to give FEMA billions of dollars after they made motor homes for an avg cost of $500K
sturg33
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Remember, miracle drugs will be discovered out of the goodness of people's hearts... costs be damned
57Brave
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under the current system yes they are!!!!
Do we have to use the recently jailed epipin CEO as an example ?
I was really hoping to leave him out of this
Curious of the (R) policy being proposed
I think it was you smugly declaring (D) has no policies
Agree or disagree (D) has a policy on the table
Do we have to use the recently jailed epipin CEO as an example ?
I was really hoping to leave him out of this
Curious of the (R) policy being proposed
I think it was you smugly declaring (D) has no policies
Agree or disagree (D) has a policy on the table
57Brave
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Miracle drugs are discovered by scientists
Are you invested in the pharmaceutical industry and stand to lose money if this would go through ?
And how do you entice scientist to enter the field of science?
How do you obtain the rare elements to create drigs?
How do you obtain sophisticated machinery to test and combine materials?
How do you procure space to have experiments?
How do you entice people to be test cases for experimental drugs?
57Brave
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yes because in this case if not a government policy it is a for profit business
I don't think health care should be for profit
Actually, I find it immoral to profit from anothers sickness
What about profiting from a person's hunger?
sturg33
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Hmm... so is it immoral that doctors make a lot of money?
57Brave
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In a nut shell should Sanders proposal go through you would suffer an investment loss.
The higher the pharmaceutical cost the more money you make
I think I have that right
sturg33
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I assure you... you don't
57Brave
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sturg33
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LOL do you recognize how easy it is to sell a stock? Do you recognize how little money I have in the company? Do you recognize that the stock is DOWN 20% in the last year? Senator Sanders is no threat to the stock of Gilead. He is a threat to the American people who won't get companies like Gilead investing billions of dollars to find miracle cures.
But yeah... the reason I don't support a socialist health system is that I will lose a few thousand dollars. You got it, pal!
But yeah... the reason I don't support a socialist health system is that I will lose a few thousand dollars. You got it, pal!
https://newrepublic.com/article/144882/obama-living-hillary-clinton-presidency
The way Obama has acted in his post-presidency suggests that he has still not fully grappled with the last election.
Hillary Clinton’s new campaign memoir, What Happened, has been panned by critics for failing to take enough responsibility for losing the election to Donald Trump. Jonathan Allen noted at Politico that the book “devotes many more pages to casting blame in other directions.” The New Republic’s Sarah Jones wrote, “Hillary Clinton doesn’t get it.” But on one issue—her decision to deliver speeches to Goldman Sachs for enormous amounts of money—Clinton did get it. “Especially after the financial crisis of 2008-2009,” Clinton writes, “I should have realized it would be bad ‘optics’ and stayed away from anything having to do with Wall Street. I didn’t. That’s on me.”
Barack Obama, the president who presided over the regulation of Wall Street after the financial crisis struck, has seemingly learned the opposite lesson. On Monday it was reported by Bloomberg that Obama in August accepted $400,000 for a speech he delivered to Northern Trust Corporation, a wealth management bank. That was followed last week by a speech to the Carlyle Group, a private equity firm. It had also been previously reported that Obama was receiving $400,000 from the bond firm Cantor Fitzgerald to speak at a health care conference later this month.
The way Obama has acted in his post-presidency suggests that he has still not fully grappled with the last election.
Hillary Clinton’s new campaign memoir, What Happened, has been panned by critics for failing to take enough responsibility for losing the election to Donald Trump. Jonathan Allen noted at Politico that the book “devotes many more pages to casting blame in other directions.” The New Republic’s Sarah Jones wrote, “Hillary Clinton doesn’t get it.” But on one issue—her decision to deliver speeches to Goldman Sachs for enormous amounts of money—Clinton did get it. “Especially after the financial crisis of 2008-2009,” Clinton writes, “I should have realized it would be bad ‘optics’ and stayed away from anything having to do with Wall Street. I didn’t. That’s on me.”
Barack Obama, the president who presided over the regulation of Wall Street after the financial crisis struck, has seemingly learned the opposite lesson. On Monday it was reported by Bloomberg that Obama in August accepted $400,000 for a speech he delivered to Northern Trust Corporation, a wealth management bank. That was followed last week by a speech to the Carlyle Group, a private equity firm. It had also been previously reported that Obama was receiving $400,000 from the bond firm Cantor Fitzgerald to speak at a health care conference later this month.
But Trump’s presidency changes everything. Obama thus far has largely stayed out of the political limelight, but with the Democratic Party in shambles and his legacy under attack, he will undoubtedly remain an influential leader in the party—perhaps the most influential leader, until the Democrats nominate a 2020 presidential candidate. He has already thrown his weight behind the National Democratic Redistricting Committee, a private non-profit that launched in January to roll back years of Republican gerrymandering. Obama is also planning a fundraiser for the Democratic National Committee in late September, his first time raising money for the party since he left office. However, even when Obama has spoken up, he has made an effort to stay on the sidelines, often refusing to call out Trump by name.
This is clearly an unprecedented environment for a post-presidency to roll out, requiring Obama to tread a particularly difficult course between keeping a respectful distance (his eight years are up after all) and standing up for bedrock American institutions and principles. But there is just no way to be apolitical in the Trump era. And if Obama wants to be an effective leader for Democrats as they rebuild and rehabilitate themselves, he can’t be on the paid Wall Street circuit. As Matt Yglesias wrote at Vox in April, “Leaders who sincerely care about the fate of the progressive center as a nationally and globally viable political movement need to push back against this perception by behaving with a higher degree of personal integrity than their rivals—not by accepting the logic that what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.”
This is clearly an unprecedented environment for a post-presidency to roll out, requiring Obama to tread a particularly difficult course between keeping a respectful distance (his eight years are up after all) and standing up for bedrock American institutions and principles. But there is just no way to be apolitical in the Trump era. And if Obama wants to be an effective leader for Democrats as they rebuild and rehabilitate themselves, he can’t be on the paid Wall Street circuit. As Matt Yglesias wrote at Vox in April, “Leaders who sincerely care about the fate of the progressive center as a nationally and globally viable political movement need to push back against this perception by behaving with a higher degree of personal integrity than their rivals—not by accepting the logic that what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.”
57Brave
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I'm still not sure what point you are making and
what does this have to do with Trump threatening 25M North Koreans with destruction and another 30M Americans health insurance ?
ex Presidents and high ranking government officials make lot of money to giving speeches.
I would rather them listening to Barrack Obama than Mitt Romney or Ron Paul
did I miss your post on Obama's visit to a grade school first day of school ??
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No one has ever confused me with a New Republic liberal
aren't those the guys that gave (R) the 2010 mid terms ?
what does this have to do with Trump threatening 25M North Koreans with destruction and another 30M Americans health insurance ?
ex Presidents and high ranking government officials make lot of money to giving speeches.
I would rather them listening to Barrack Obama than Mitt Romney or Ron Paul
did I miss your post on Obama's visit to a grade school first day of school ??
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No one has ever confused me with a New Republic liberal
aren't those the guys that gave (R) the 2010 mid terms ?