Yeah. That would make Pache a 4th outfielder/defensive sub. Hopefully he's more then that but that's probably his floor if the defense is that legit.
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Yeah. That would make Pache a 4th outfielder/defensive sub. Hopefully he's more then that but that's probably his floor if the defense is that legit.
yep, his bat could pretty easily end up like peraza's. which just reinforces the "pillar floor" as silly.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
A couple 3+ WAR seasons before hitting free agency.
I mean, Peraza's bat is not much worse than Pillar's bat.
GovClintonTyree
<B>Vencer a Los Doyers</B>
I drop by about once a month to see if anything has improved...it's remarkable how any thread of more than a page or two devolves into a personal pi$$ing match with the guy. Disappointing. Very unpleasant.
I'd like to talk some Braves baseball, but not with that guy tearing people up and acting like he does.
Life's too short. Back to lurking.
He'd better hurry up and improve then. he was a negative last year. how many guys go from being a negative *over a full season to 3+ WAR? even at 23...
doesn't have on base skills, doesn't play great defense, no power..one 3+ fWAR season would surprise me.
I think low-60s is a good bit worse than low-80s to mid-90s.
Some of us could stand to help by joining you - just not in our nature I guess.
The Jeter/Larkin comps were always silly.
I always pegged Swanson somewhere between Trammell and Jack Wilson, and I still think he ultimately falls in there.
Southcack77
Well-known member
I had a Stephen Drew comp on Swanson. Could have been inspired.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
NOt saying that this is the comp, but Brooks RObinson had a pretty rough start to his career. Some players do go from not much to greatness. I think the best modern example is eithe Chase Utley or Jason Bay who didn't earn starting gigs until their mid 20s. For ****s and giggles to the point Bay had a negative WAR season between 2 3+
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Possible but not likely, offensively I see the comp but I think Swanson will be much better defensively. I'd think more JJ Hardy.
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
If we can get an Allan Trammell level career out of Swanson, I will be overjoyed.
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
Good points. Even if you give young players the benefit of additional seasoning at the AAA level, the big leagues are in a different galaxy of play and adjustments need to be made (again and again and again . . .).
blueagleace1
Playing the Waiting Game
Ditto. I'm in the same boat.
That's one hell of an outcome range, but I'm also amused at the idea that it's silly to throw out Jeter comps, but Trammell felt realistic enough.
Yeah, I mean....Utley just wasn't called up but it's not like he wasn't hitting well in the minors. i don't really see how his situation is comparable. or bay's situation, who put up a 1.2 fWAR his first season (albeit at 25). i guess those just seem like random examples to me. peraza doesn't have any carrying tool. dude will have to hit like .320+ to reach 3+ war.
of course he can adjust. i'm just saying, guy has a billy hamilton bat without billy hamilton speed and defense. getting to 3-war will be a big challenge for someone with his profile. i have more faith swanson will have a couple 4+ WAR seasons.