acesfull86
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If something called the “Affordable Care Act” was passed in 2010, is it fair to say it was a failure?
They will die !!!!Oh look we can’t cut spending because people will die
Well, unless you need to make rural people afraid of immigrants and trans people. Then it’s actually highly effective.They will die !!!!
Man I hear this a lot,
Except when Dems do the same exact thing
People are over it, the fear mongering doesn’t work
Time to bring real solutions or back up your batshit opinions or GTFO the way.
Everyone should concerned on those two groups and the impact to our society.Well, unless you need to make rural people afraid of immigrants and trans people. Then it’s actually highly effective.
Omg our PhD is arguing that ACA was a good thing for costswhat has happened to healthcare inflation since the ACA went into effect?
ChatGPT said:
Great question. Let’s break it down carefully, because there are a few different measures of “healthcare inflation” and the Affordable Care Act (ACA, enacted 2010, major provisions starting in 2014) has affected them in different ways.
1.
- Pre-ACA trend (2000–2009): U.S. healthcare spending was growing much faster than GDP and general inflation. Per capita health expenditures were rising at ~6–7% annually.
- Post-ACA (2010s): Healthcare cost growth slowed sharply. From 2010–2019, national health expenditures grew at an average rate of ~4% per year, the slowest decade in half a century.
- This was partly due to the lingering effects of the Great Recession, but most analyses credit the ACA with at least some role, especially in reducing Medicare payment growth and penalizing hospital readmissions.
2.
- The medical care component of CPI also slowed after the ACA.
- 2000–2009: grew around 3.8% annually.
- 2010–2019: slowed to around 2.2% annually.
- In the late 2010s, it was often close to or even below overall CPI—very unusual historically.
3.
- Premium growth also moderated:
- 2000–2010: family premiums grew at ~7% annually.
- 2010–2020: growth slowed to ~4% annually.
- However, employees’ deductibles and cost-sharing rose significantly, meaning out-of-pocket costs still climbed.
4.
- The pandemic distorted healthcare spending (elective care dropped in 2020, then rebounded).
- Recently, healthcare inflation has picked up again, largely due to rising wages for healthcare workers, drug prices, and hospital costs. In 2023–2024, medical CPI was running 3–5% annually, again above overall inflation.
Summary
- Since the ACA went into effect, healthcare inflation slowed dramatically in the 2010s, hitting the lowest rates in decades.
- The ACA’s cost-containment provisions (Medicare payment reforms, value-based purchasing, limits on insurer overhead, penalties for readmissions) are widely credited with helping, though the economic environment also played a role.
- Since the pandemic, cost growth has accelerated again, and healthcare is once more outpacing overall inflation.
Would you like me to put together a graph showing medical CPI vs overall CPI before and after the ACA so you can visualize the slowdown?
Illegal immigrants or legal ones? You guys never differentiate.Well, unless you need to make rural people afraid of immigrants and trans people. Then it’s actually highly effective.
Yes, the media sucks too. That doesn’t mean your side isn’t fear mongering. Donald Trump just said we’re in a state of war in Portland, Oregon for fuck’s sake.Illegal immigrants or legal ones? You guys never differentiate.
But the nightly news does both. Talk to them about fear mongering. You guys always turn to censorship anyway.
We are - Thats what happens when you have an embedded Marxist revolt in your country.Yes, the media sucks too. That doesn’t mean your side isn’t fear mongering. Donald Trump just said we’re in a state of war in Portland, Oregon for fuck’s sake.
The person leading the majority in government saying he’s going after spending to specifically hurt his political opponents is bad, actually.
Project 2025 was always the plan!
lolWe are - Thats what happens when you have an embedded Marxist revolt in your country.
71 people died by homicide in Portland, slightly fewer than the 77 people killed in 2023 – but still more than double the city's historic annual average.Yes, the media sucks too. That doesn’t mean your side isn’t fear mongering. Donald Trump just said we’re in a state of war in Portland, Oregon for fuck’s sake.
Thats more Americans killed than were in Afghanistan while we were actively at war with them during the Trump term 171 people died by homicide in Portland, slightly fewer than the 77 people killed in 2023 – but still more than double the city's historic annual average.
IDK. You sure?
https://www.alamy.com/portland-or-a...-sportswire-via-ap-images-image532245046.html
It’s amusing you still don’t see it.