Economics Thread

Yes - the rise of drop shippers and there reduction in market share will KILL AMERICA!
It's not just drop shippers. We know that Foxconn factories in China are the best at making products at volume. Drop Shippers are a drop in the bucket. The company I buy my D&D terrain works out fo china because they need a factory that has the capability to have a large injection mold process. and a good sized force to paint terrain over and over again. US doesn't have that capability at scale. Much less at a decent price.
 
Manufacturing activity contracted sharply in the Philadelphia area in April as new orders collapsed and costs for firms continued to rise after President Trump's flurry of tariffs at the start of the month.

The Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia said Thursday that its index for business activity sank to minus 26.4 in April from a positive reading 12.5 in March.

The reading below zero points to contraction in the region's factory activity, an unexpected outcome since economists had anticipated the index to remain in expansionary territory, at 3.5, according to a survey by The Wall Street Journal. Survey responses were collected from April 7 to April 14.

Price indexes continue to suggest overall price increases, with the gauge of prices paid reaching its highest since mid-2022. Almost 31% of the firms reported increases in the prices of their own goods, while none reported decreases, the Philadelphia Fed said.

The survey's indicators for new orders and shipments also turned negative this month, it said. The index for new orders sank to its lowest reading since April 2020. Nearly 39% of the firms reported decreases in general activity this month, while just 13% reported increases.

 
How will Americans live!!?!?!?!?!!?

Going to be like the stone age again.

This is also a problem with many liberal/progressive policies, but I don’t think many people are fully prepared for how many luxuries will have to be lost if you continuously pull the “mess with the free market” lever. For all its inequities, our current system allows for a lot of consumerism that people have taken for granted.

For me personally, I’d want more food/healthcare/housing for the needy in exchange for my cost of living increasing rather than some extra low-wage factory jobs and better export terms, but this is still just MAGA socialism and the inevitable outcome will be reduced buying power.
 
This is also a problem with many liberal/progressive policies, but I don’t think many people are fully prepared for how many luxuries will have to be lost if you continuously pull the “mess with the free market” lever. For all its inequities, our current system allows for a lot of consumerism that people have taken for granted.

For me personally, I’d want more food/healthcare/housing for the needy in exchange for my cost of living increasing rather than some extra low-wage factory jobs and better export terms, but this is still just MAGA socialism and the inevitable outcome will be reduced buying power.

I don't think people like you are prepared for the fact that this won't impact as many Americans as you think because most are just scraping by and not even able to buy many things to start with.

But when they get better jobs that pay more they'll understand where that came from.
 
the fetish some people have for manufacturing jobs is going to be very costly for ordinary people...the very people those who advocate for returning manufacturing jobs claim to want to help
 
the fetish some people have for manufacturing jobs is going to be very costly for ordinary people...the very people those who advocate for returning manufacturing jobs claim to want to help

WHats more costly? This or in 10 years with the CCP goes Kinetic and all we have are 'services'?
 
WHats more costly? This or in 10 years with the CCP goes Kinetic and all we have are 'services'?
We've done very well with a mostly services economy. In fact it is a hallmark of a country having an advanced economy. There is a very strong correlation between income levels and the proportion of an economy that is services. Not that this implies causality. You have a services job. Almost everyone here as far as I can tell has a services job. I don't sense any great unhappiness among the posters here that they can't trade their services job for one on a factory floor.
 
We've done very well with a mostly services economy. In fact it is a hallmark of a country having an advanced economy. There is a very strong correlation between income levels and the proportion of an economy that is services. Not that this implies causality.

Yes - Those services will be great when we need drones/robotics/medicines/steel/etc.... in a war with the CCP.
 
You have a services job. Almost everyone here as far as I can tell has a services job. I don't sense any great unhappiness among the posters here that they can't trade their services job for one on a factory floor.

Yes - I've been very clear on this. The idea is to create jobs for ALL Americans not just ones that have some semblance of STEM skills.
 
Yes - Those services will be great when we need drones/robotics/medicines/steel/etc.... in a war with the CCP.
eh...if we "lose" to the ccp it won't be for lack of hardware...it will be because we were dumb enough to undermine the thangs that make us the most advanced and technologically powerful society and economy the world has ever seen
 
eh...if we "lose" to the ccp it won't be for lack of hardware...it will be because we were dumb enough to undermine the thangs that make us the most advanced and technologically powerful society and economy the world has ever seen

Yeah - It won't be the lack of ability to make things that help win wars and keep your population safe.

And once the CCP steals enough tech to get dominance in AI/Robotics....game over
 
But hey - We can always trust the same entity that killed over 40M of their own people.

They'll be great stewards for the world.

L's will certainly get their way then!!!
 
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