Economics Thread

chop2chip said:
So you don’t think cost of inputs has any effect at all?

I think respectfully that you’re choosing to live in a fantasy.
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I’m intimately familiar with how farming and prices work, in fact more than you.


I work with them for a living.

Many will choose to not turn ground if the estimates look like they will lose money, or break even. It’s not worth losing. And that’s after supplemental payments.

They can re- lease it out to someone who can try it or has a larger scale operation but the price is usually set on contract before they plant. It’s not really negotiable. It’s a take this price now, and risk it being lower or higher later kinda deal
 
Tapate50 said:
I’m intimately familiar with how farming and prices work, in fact more than you.


I work with them for a living.

Many will choose to not turn ground if the estimates look like they will lose money, or break even. It’s not worth losing. And that’s after supplemental payments.

They can re- lease it out to someone who can try it or has a larger scale operation but the price is usually set on contract before they plant. It’s not really negotiable. It’s a take this price now, and risk it being lower or higher later kinda deal
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I’ll defer to your expertise on corn prices.

It doesn’t apply to beef (which aside from higher input costs to domestic production US imports a 20% of its beef from Canada and Australia).

It doesn’t apply to beer.
 
chop2chip said:
I’ll defer to your expertise on corn prices.

It doesn’t apply to beef (which aside from higher input costs to domestic production US imports a 20% of its beef from Canada and Australia).

It doesn’t apply to beer.
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Well it’s not just corn- it’s peanuts, vegetables , sorghum, wheat. The point is- they don’t set prices whatsoever. They can either take the price offered on contract, or risk whatever the price of the market is when it’s harvested. Gambling.


But most beef is fed grass. Then finished on corn and silage.

Are you saying water and grass and hay are priced higher because of tariffs ?
 
Tapate50 said:
The Beer is brewed here

The beef is raised here and it’s been up for years

Among other things … corn still cheap.

Not sure axios is being truthful in those stats

Bush light was as cheap as I’ve ever seen it the other day. 10 for 18 pack i think
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Hi

Guy with a ton of information here.

Not all beer is 'brewed" here. Some of the biggest maltsters are in Europe, many hop varietals grow in Europe, every brewer worth their weight in salt has amazing stainless steel products everywhere, Fermenters, brite tanks, kettles, mash tuns, etc. If steel prices go up, the price a brewer has to do repairs/replacements/upgrades goes up. Obviously it's amortized over the volume. But brewing is a business with a ton of waste, so being profitable is key and they're not eating the higher expense of purchasing by just giving it to the customers. There's also the reality that basically every single brewery is using silicone, plastic, etc.

That's also got questions about chemicals. So I don't know every chemical pro brewers use, but are they for sure sourced from here.

ALso ignoring costs, etc. associated with packaging.
 
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