Farewell to Wood, Peraza, Jimmy Johns, and Avilans.

@Evan_P_Grant: FInal deal and its a doozy: Matt Harrison, Alec Asher, Jerad Eickhoff, Nick Williams, Jorge Alfaro & Jake Thompson for Hamels+Diekman+Cash.

Phil get Rangers #'s 4, 5, 6, and 17 prospects along with a serviceable SP in Harrison and Asher.
 
BS. Stop that. I've been talking about trading Wood since the offseason. I actually like Peraza still and hope he does well.

You trade Wood because he has MLB experience, is good, and should not an offensive return for the future. You don't trade him because of injury risks while taking on so many pitchers with recent TJ's. That's dumb.
 
What moves were bad?

Well so far I liked all the moves since Hart has came aboard and I think its hard to call any of them bad.

But I consider this front office an extension of what was in place pre-Wren so obviously there were many moves that JS effed up.
 
If the Braves think he is going to be injurred you better believe that other front offices believe the same thing.

Point being is he's not hurt right now...you can't base a players current value on what might happen to him...hard throwing closers typically have arm issues, do you think if the Reds trade Chapman other teams and the Reds themselves are gonna lower his asking price because he could potentially have Tommy John in the future...Strasburg has had TJ, doubt his value would be lowered if the Nats moved him
 
I meant to say we can't re-write history. You are saying the deal is even worse because they could have just signed him. Well they didn't so that has no bearing on this deal.

And I'm saying that it does. This FO is the same one that decided Olivera wasn't worth the contract he was given. But he is worth half of that contract, Wood, and Peraza? That makes no sense.
 
Between Wood, who MIGHT have another TJ and all the other young arms we've acquired this year that have had TJ, who's accomplished more in this league?

Don't worry, I'll wait.
 
You trade Wood because he has MLB experience, is good, and should not an offensive return for the future. You don't trade him because of injury risks while taking on so many pitchers with recent TJ's. That's dumb.

I'm always in the market to trade pitching because of the attrituion factor. Thats why I love that the Braves continually acquired more pitching. I don't think its completely unreasonable to think that Wood could have another injury in the next 2-3 years. I'd rather not have another JJ/Hanson/Beachy.
 
Man, what entertainment.

I've been watching this thread for hours.

I will say that I have stated all along that Wood and/or Miller and/or Teheran had to go to bring back some bats. I would have never predicted or hoped for Olivera because of his age. And while the inclusion of Peraza in a trade doesn't surprise me it does appear that his star has fallen far indeed to be included in this.

For those who say we should have just signed Olivera in the offseason, I would point out the small item of money which the Dodgers had and the Braves didn't.
 
I hate trading Wood and I generally don't agree with the process of trading for a 30 year old, but Oliviera might be really really good.

There's upside to the trade. But it's entirely dependent on him reaching his upside.

The biggest issues are hes not proven and if he is a tremendous bat, for how long?
 
I for one would like to see what actually happens. The Braves haven't actually made a deal yet. There have been a lot of false reports this trading season.
 
People bitch about having no position players, then bitch when you get one.

This is a blast though. I like having us mixed up in a bunch.
 
And I'm saying that it does. This FO is the same one that decided Olivera wasn't worth the contract he was given. But he is worth half of that contract, Wood, and Peraza? That makes no sense.

How do we know if that money was approved for him? How do we know how the negotiations went. Maybe teh Dodgers swooped in at the last minute with a take it or leave it offer. I don't think we can just combine those two decisions.
 
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