Farewell to Wood, Peraza, Jimmy Johns, and Avilans.

weso1 said:
That's true, but it does give us a good player at a position of need for a very team friendly contract. So we don't need a 3B now and we still will have plenty of money to spend to improve the roster.
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We could have just hung on to Uribe and be in a similar place at 3b. And still have Peraza, Arroyo and Wood. What we wouldn't have are those high A pitchers who look like "organizational depth" to me.

Biggest problem I have is Hart is not going with his plan of trading guys who are decent now for younger guys with more upside. He mortgaged the future to get Olivera; this guy better be damned good. Doesn't sound to me like he's any better than Uribe, just younger.
 
David O'Brien
@DOBrienAJC
Heard #Braves Olivera compared to Travis Fryman offensively a couples times today inc. by Hart, who also comp'd to Scott Rolen (offensively)

Jerry Crasnick
@jcrasnick
#Braves are comparing Olivera to Travis Fryman or Scott Rolen offensively -- a .270 or .280 hitter with some power
 
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but Braves expect Olivera back in 7-10 days (whether that's in AAA or with Atlanta is not clear).
 
Is there anyone who likes the trade? I gather board has melted down in general, but there are those on the interwebs that question how long Wood could play before having arm troubles.

I like this trade more than the Uribe/KJ trade to be honest. That one I don't get at all.
 
Hawk said:
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but Braves expect Olivera back in 7-10 days (whether that's in AAA or with Atlanta is not clear).
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Prediction: he will play, look ok for a few weeks. Fans will start to move on and support the deal. Then bang, TJ surgery, and he's out till 2017 when he'll be 87 years old
 
Hawk said:
David O'Brien

@DOBrienAJC

Heard #Braves Olivera compared to Travis Fryman offensively a couples times today inc. by Hart, who also comp'd to Scott Rolen (offensively)

Jerry Crasnick

@jcrasnick

#Braves are comparing Olivera to Travis Fryman or Scott Rolen offensively -- a .270 or .280 hitter with some power
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So we are comparing him to a guy with a 104 career OPS+? Here were his OPS+ at age 30 and above 80, 127, 76, 72 and out of the league at 33.

Scot Rolen would be much better as he was 122 with great defense.
 
mossy said:
Is there anyone who likes the trade? I gather board has melted down in general, but there are those on the interwebs that question how long Wood could play before having arm troubles.

I like this trade more than the Uribe/KJ trade to be honest. That won I don't get at all.
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Not a person here that I've seen that likes it. Haven't read any national analysis report that likes it for us either.
 
Again - no issues with trading Wood or Peraza but I'm baffled at the weak return. Uribe put up a .817 OPS for us and played good defense... and we're asking for Olivera to actually be worse than that
 
Hawk said:
Jerry Crasnick

@jcrasnick

#Braves John Hart on Hector Olivera: "We liked the bat. He's affordable, and that will allow us to do more things."
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If Olivera turns into a .280/.350/.450 hitter with 20 HRs and average defense at 3B for the next 3-4 years, AND the extra money is used to make a huge upgrade in LF, C or the rotation, then I have no problem with this trade. If the payroll hovers around $90M next year, then we know it was a cost cutting move, and was likely the best they could do under the circumstances.
 
Hawk said:
David O'Brien
@DOBrienAJC
Heard #Braves Olivera compared to Travis Fryman offensively a couples times today inc. by Hart, who also comp'd to Scott Rolen (offensively)

Jerry Crasnick
@jcrasnick
#Braves are comparing Olivera to Travis Fryman or Scott Rolen offensively -- a .270 or .280 hitter with some power
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Travis Fryman. Hahahahaha
 
Enscheff said:
If Olivera turns into a .280/.350/.450 hitter with 20 HRs and average defense at 3B for the next 3-4 years, AND the extra money is used to make a huge upgrade in LF, C or the rotation, then I have no problem with this trade. If the payroll hovers around $90M next year, then we know it was a cost cutting move, and was likely the best they could do under the circumstances.
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What extra money? Most I can find is the $4.5M from arroyo next year, and that isn't confirmed
 
UNCBlue012 said:
Why, why, why and one more why, did we just GIVE them our number two prospect? That's my holdup. That is literally one of the dumbest things we've done.
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Easy. They had to give him up to get even more salary relief. Ownership is really going to turn a hell of a profit this year. They're building the stadium that will make them a fortune on the backs of their fan's misfortunes.
 
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