Ferguson....

njc108 said:
No I watch it all from time to time...Cnn, Free SpeechTV, MSNBC, and even KKK-Fox News (I like to be kept up to date with racist and their news). But really don't get a chance to watch much TV since I'm helping to raise a special needs child who will never speak nor be able to be potty train. Im also out on the streets....you know actually doing things to stop black on black violence. Hmm are any of you guys doing anything like that to help others? Or are you just sitting by your computers each day chatting on Chop and watching KKK-Fox News?

Fleeing or charging.... still does not mean a black young man without a gun should have been shot so many times and killed. Ugh its ok guys. We are not going to agree on this and its ok. I respect your opinions. I should have never riled myself back up by coming back to this side of the board. Grrr damn me lol You all have a happy holiday season!!!!
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I still counsel young blacks, but it is a tough job. They only know one thing. I will leave that up to your imagination.

Since I don't belong to any religion, I am free to any religious services and registered with the university as a counselor, not a teacher, don't have a PHD, but they do have programs with people like me who have degrees with social studies (minor, mine major is Info tech) so I can counsel.
 
sturg33 said:
True - I could mouth off to a cop and get shot.
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The incident in Iowa, I would not be on these boards and worm food nowadays. After getting pulled over for DWB, passed their test and went absolutely off on them. 8 cops with guns out. I didn't care. They made me look really bad like they ****ed up and wanted to get something out of me. They did not realize that the people I was protecting as DD and bodyguard where higher up peeps for a major company and the chief had apologize to me in person the next day.

Today, I would not be alive for not doing anything wrong but mouthing off and dead because of it.
 
thethe said:
]I've never been cursed at my a cop but I've been spoken to in a "dickish" manner before[/B]. I've said repeatedly that there is still racism in this country and that blacks do have it harder than most whites. But, the response to be more rude and non-responsive only hurts Blacks IMO. If people were more compliant or don't commit the crimes in the first place we would all be in a better spot.
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I have and never said anything, just a black guy driving, chaperoning, bodyguard some execs and got treated like schit by them because someone thought I kidnapped them (why there were 4 cars 8 police and weapons drawn when I got out of the car.....really? If I kidnap people do you honestly think I wouldn't run? Cops mental capabilities and commons sense is TERRIBLE)

....but they did not know who I was protecting and probably got an ear full for it.

Never got harassed or stopped again. I was OFF limits to them.
 
goldfly said:
hold on, you are saying just over 1 death of an American citizen a day by the hands of the body of gov't that is supposed to protect and serve the American citizens seems like a pretty good ****ing day?

holy ****
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There is zero way in hell there is 1 unjustified death a day by cops in the U.S. There is a cop killed on average 3 times per week though.
 
AerchAngel said:
I have and never said anything, just a black guy driving, chaperoning, bodyguard some execs and got treated like schit by them because someone thought I kidnapped them (why there were 4 cars 8 police and weapons drawn when I got out of the car.....really? If I kidnap people do you honestly think I wouldn't run? Cops mental capabilities and commons sense is TERRIBLE)

....but they did not know who I was protecting and probably got an ear full for it.

Never got harassed or stopped again. I was OFF limits to them.
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Same thing happened to my wife and her friend. She was unfortunate to be in a car that was similar to a suspects vehicle.

She was pretty shook up, but survived it and hasn't cried about the incident everyday for the rest of her life. I actually haven't hear her discuss it in years.
 
gilesfan said:
Same thing happened to my wife and her friend. She was unfortunate to be in a car that was similar to a suspects vehicle.

She was pretty shook up, but survived it and hasn't cried about the incident everyday for the rest of her life. I actually haven't hear her discuss it in years.
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That's not necessarily a good thing bro.
 
gilesfan said:
There is zero way in hell there is 1 unjustified death a day by cops in the U.S. There is a cop killed on average 3 times per week though.
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if you add in car accidents and heart attacks while on working the beat you get to 3 times a week

if you just go by being killed at the hands of someone it is around once a week or just over 52 times a year.

which by Garmel tells us, isn't that bad at all

in case you want to see how they died since your stat is made to look worse: http://www.odmp.org/search/year

btw, before you ask for a link to prove my stat, i am going with the best private research for it since our gov't won't actually do it (shocking):

as the annual average number of justifiable homicides alone is estimated to be near 400. Although Congress instructed the Attorney General in 1994 to compile and publish annual statistics on police use of excessive force, this was never carried out, and the FBI does not collect these data either
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sturg33 said:
Weekly
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So 1 instance per week? 10? 20? Just trying to see where you are coming from. I do enjoy this foreplay we are having because you don't want to commit yourself to a number and then potentially realize that its not really "common".
 
thethe said:
So 1 instance per week? 10? 20? Just trying to see where you are coming from. I do enjoy this foreplay we are having because you don't want to commit yourself to a number and then potentially realize that its not really "common".
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You're a moron. I've answered every question you've asked. If you don't understand what weekly means, then I can't help you.

If you're ok with 3 people bing killed by cops a day, then that is your deal. I'm not.
 
sturg33 said:
You're a moron. I've answered every question you've asked. If you don't understand what weekly means, then I can't help you.

If you're ok with 3 people bing killed by cops a day, then that is your deal. I'm not.
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You just went from 'Weekly" to 3 people being killed by cops per day.

Not sure if I'm following you. Which is it? Are you saying over 1000 people per year are killed by cops who are using excessive force?
 
thethe said:
You just went from 'Weekly" to 3 people being killed by cops per day.

Not sure if I'm following you. Which is it? Are you saying over 1000 people per year are killed by cops who are using excessive force?
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Him and I have already been over that. He has no numbers as to how many unjustifiable deaths there are.

He'd just like to think its a lot.
 
thethe said:
You just went from 'Weekly" to 3 people being killed by cops per day.

Not sure if I'm following you. Which is it? Are you saying over 1000 people per year are killed by cops who are using excessive force?
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I'm sorry you can't read. You keep changing whatever pointless question you're asking me to answer.

I said **** like this happens to commonly. You asked me to define common. I did. You said put a number on it. I did. You then wanted me to quantify that number - which made no sense. I then told you that over 1,000 people per year are getting killed by cops. I don't know how many of those are justifiable - because the government insists on not tracking those sorts of things. But that number is way too high for me.
 
Tomahawking4life said:
Him and I have already been over that. He has no numbers as to how many unjustifiable deaths there are.

He'd just like to think its a lot.
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What would be too much for you? It would seemingly be one, but clearly that's nowhere near high enough for you to be concerned about police officers murdering people.

So what number does it need to be before you're concerned? And are you not concerned that cops hardly ever get indicted for this stuff?
 
sturg33 said:
What would be too much for you? It would seemingly be one, but clearly that's nowhere near high enough for you to be concerned about police officers murdering people.

So what number does it need to be before you're concerned? And are you not concerned that cops hardly ever get indicted for this stuff?
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They hardly ever do so in a non self defense situation either.
 
sturg33 said:
I'm sorry you can't read. You keep changing whatever pointless question you're asking me to answer.

I said **** like this happens to commonly. You asked me to define common. I did. You said put a number on it. I did. You then wanted me to quantify that number - which made no sense. I then told you that over 1,000 people per year are getting killed by cops. I don't know how many of those are justifiable - because the government insists on not tracking those sorts of things. But that number is way too high for me.
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Weekly is not putting a number on it especially because you went from weekly to 3 times per day so forgive me for calling you on that.
 
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