Gattis Traded To Astros (pg. 13)

MadduxFanII said:
The deal (assuming it goes through) basically eliminates one of my complaints about this off-season, which is that we were essentially half-assing a rebuild. We're approaching it thoroughly now, which is good. It does make the Markakis deal even weirder and more unnecessary, I remain unconvinced that a rebuild was strictly necessary and I'm thoroughly unconvinced that Bethancourt is a good option at catcher. But considering the overarching strategy Hart chose, a Gattis trade at least means we're committing fully to it.

Now what I'd like to see us do is really lean into the rebuild and let Terdoslavich play left instead of signing a one-year free agent retread. He'll almost certainly prove unworthy of the role, but at least we'll know for sure, and that's the whole point of a season like the one we're facing: giving young, borderline guys a final chance to swim or drown.
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From your fingers to ... out of Mark Bowman's mouth? A modern-day, journalistic Jonah, to be sure.
 
MadduxFanII said:
The deal (assuming it goes through) basically eliminates one of my complaints about this off-season, which is that we were essentially half-assing a rebuild. We're approaching it thoroughly now, which is good. It does make the Markakis deal even weirder and more unnecessary, I remain unconvinced that a rebuild was strictly necessary and I'm thoroughly unconvinced that Bethancourt is a good option at catcher. But considering the overarching strategy Hart chose, a Gattis trade at least means we're committing fully to it.

Now what I'd like to see us do is really lean into the rebuild and let Terdoslavich play left instead of signing a one-year free agent retread. He'll almost certainly prove unworthy of the role, but at least we'll know for sure, and that's the whole point of a season like the one we're facing: giving young, borderline guys a final chance to swim or drown.
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That's why I hate the Markakis deal. Let Cunningham, BJ, and Terds play the OF. It will probably be disastrous, but if one of them turns it around we have a valuable player. It's not like we have a top prospect waiting in the wings.
 
Better than some of our other trades this offseason. (maybe the best trade) A solid 3B prospect as long as he can improve his defense (bat likely doesn't play at first, but should play at third base) A pretty good upside set up guy (maybe closer if he learns secondary pitch) and an arm thrown in.
 
JJ Cooper ‏@jjcoop36 17m17 minutes ago
Braves have done a 180. System was filled with low-ceiling role players. Acquiring lots of riskier high ceiling prospects now.

Thankfully the leadership has made this shift.
 
thethe said:
JJ Cooper ‏@jjcoop36 17m17 minutes ago
Braves have done a 180. System was filled with low-ceiling role players. Acquiring lots of riskier high ceiling prospects now.

Thankfully the leadership has made this shift.
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Both are important. Pre-Wren we took tons of high risk guys. To name some Johnson, Devall, Evarts, Rasmus, Jones, Atilano, and could list others, and most of the time they didn't work out. You need a blend of high risk and low risk players.
 
But really, given everything that's occurred so far this offseason, I'm glad this trade was made.

Now Hart can be all:

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Heyward / Gattis / Justin Upton all gone and Chris Johnson and BJ Upton are still here.....cool.
 
depley said:
The sad thing about this trade is that after all is said and done the one player that needed to be gone is still here. Freakin BJ Upton.
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When we removed any chance of being competitive, we also removed most of the positives of unloading BJ. At this point, it is worth more to play him and see if he can increase his value. It really can't get significantly lower. Same goes for CJ.
 
depley said:
The sad thing about this trade is that after all is said and done the one player that needed to be gone is still here. Freakin BJ Upton.
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The Braves are rebuilding now, for (mostly) real. They can carry him into the year and see what happens; they won't be competing in 2015, so they don't need to free up the money, so now—more than ever since his disastrous first season—Melvin doesn't "need to be gone".

In other words, this:

Dalyn said:
When we removed any chance of being competitive, we also removed most of the positives of unloading BJ. At this point, it is worth more to play him and see if he can increase his value. It really can't get significantly lower. Same goes for CJ.
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zitothebrave said:
Both are important. Pre-Wren we took tons of high risk guys. To name some Johnson, Devall, Evarts, Rasmus, Jones, Atilano, and could list others, and most of the time they didn't work out. You need a blend of high risk and low risk players.
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The stage this organization is at makes only high upside guys worth taking. After the base has been built and we start to see some fruits of those labors at the major league level you can start drafting more on needs.
 
To me, the ultimate irony is this:

BJ Upton could hit .330-30-75 with 60 SBs. And the Braves could still finish last.
 
It does strike me as odd that our biggest problem was offense and we got rid of our three of our best 4 offensive players - probably 4 counting LaStella
 
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