GDT: 11/3/20, Election Day, Donald J. Trump vs. Joseph R. Biden

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zitothebrave said:
Because police over reacted to one and underreacted to another. One was protests that got out of hand. The other was an attempted insurrection with no direction.
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That dude sitting at Pelosi's desk wasn't trying to overthrow the government. And the stolen lectern isn't vital to democracy. I disagree with calling it attempted insurrection.
 
sturg33 said:
There are a few posters on this board - including myself - who have condemned both. And condemned both at the time they happened.

The problem is the double standards some people and our media have depending on the cause they support.
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Yeah, I don't get what's so hard about admitting that violent outbursts like happened yesterday or happened last year with BLM are wrong. Wanton lawlessness should be condemned in the strongest terms. Whether the underlying cause is just or not is completely irrelevant. Outbursts like that are unacceptable.
 
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Jaw said:
That dude sitting at Pelosi's desk wasn't trying to overthrow the government. And the stolen lectern isn't vital to democracy. I disagree with calling it attempted insurrection.
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Again, insurrection with no direction. They were there to "stop the steal" what does that mean? Did they storm the capital to attempt to stop the governmen?

Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
 
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While there is/has been a double standard in how police have generally responded to the different groups, I don't think immediately after such an event is the time to be focusing on that. Mr. Biden is about to take over a fractured nation. I'd rather not continue to divide by focusing on the differences.
 
zitothebrave said:
Yes.

And we're not comparing protests and riots to insurrection. Doing so is a moronic false equivalency.

Go **** yourself.
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There's a good argument that the riot last year amounted to an insurrection. I've read several legal definitions of insurrections and the common theme is that it's a concerted effort to try to, through violence, deny the government's ability to exercise its lawful authority. Under this definition, what we saw last summer was a lot of insurrections. We had police precincts burned, cop cars destroyed, police were denied access to areas, there were even "autonomous zones" set up.

So I don't think using the term insurrection on both is out of line.
 
Carp said:
While there is/has been a double standard in how police have generally responded to the different groups, I don't think immediately after such an event is the time to be focusing on that. Mr. Biden is about to take over a fractured nation. I'd rather not continue to divide by focusing on the differences.
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na, yesterday proved we can't just "move a long for the betterment of the nation" bull****

people need to be held accountable

the "we need to move a long and be brought together" stuff after the civil war is seriously being felt still today for not holding more accountable for their treason then
 
Jaw said:
That dude sitting at Pelosi's desk wasn't trying to overthrow the government. And the stolen lectern isn't vital to democracy. I disagree with calling it attempted insurrection.
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just cause because maga people are stupid as **** with no real plan

doesn't mean the definition doesn't fit
 
goldfly said:
just cause because maga people are stupid as **** with no real plan

doesn't mean the definition doesn't fit
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The mental gymnastics Sturg, Jaw and Thethe go through to defend this bull**** just shows the type of assholes they are. Just come out and admit what we already know about all of you. Jesus. Trumpers are the absolute worst. Insufferable pricks.
 
Jaw is nowhere near on the level of willful obtuseness as sturg and thethe.

thethe is in a class of his own. sturg is right below.
 
striker42 said:
There's a good argument that the riot last year amounted to an insurrection. I've read several legal definitions of insurrections and the common theme is that it's a concerted effort to try to, through violence, deny the government's ability to exercise its lawful authority. Under this definition, what we saw last summer was a lot of insurrections. We had police precincts burned, cop cars destroyed, police were denied access to areas, there were even "autonomous zones" set up.

So I don't think using the term insurrection on both is out of line.
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This
 
striker42 said:
There's a good argument that the riot last year amounted to an insurrection. I've read several legal definitions of insurrections and the common theme is that it's a concerted effort to try to, through violence, deny the government's ability to exercise its lawful authority. Under this definition, what we saw last summer was a lot of insurrections. We had police precincts burned, cop cars destroyed, police were denied access to areas, there were even "autonomous zones" set up.

So I don't think using the term insurrection on both is out of line.
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What federal laws were broken and what actions to take over the US Government were taken? Only one of these things shut down our government, and at a time they certifying election results.
 
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