msstate7
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I get confused on when fWAR is valid for player value and when it isn't. Bumgarner is 1.1 fWAR to Gausman's 0.8 (31.6% better), but bumgarner isn't better. In nick's case though...
GDT 6/10/19: Running it back vs the Pirates
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I get confused on when fWAR is valid for player value and when it isn't. Bumgarner is 1.1 fWAR to Gausman's 0.8 (31.6% better), but bumgarner isn't better. In nick's case though...
nsacpi
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Muk, Joyce, Camargo and Riley should be mixed and matched so everyone stays sharp and rested. I understand 2 of them have been getting most of the playing time. Muk because he is the established incumbent. And Riley because he got off to a blazing start. But those four are pretty much equivalent in terms of the value they are likely to provide going forward this season. As it turns out Camargo and Riley are better against lefties and Muk and Joyce better against righties. Platoons in left and right, not necessarily strict ones, might be the best way to go with those four. I'm not a believer in going with the hot hand based on small samples. We are seeing why with Riley and others.
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msstate7
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Like WAR, I knew you'd admit bumgarner is better than Gausman
I know it's easy to get confused. Neck is clearly a below average player. He's been that way in ever year for the Braves except last year in which he had a super hot 1st half. Literally every other time with the Braves he has been what you see now. No amount of rest will change that. He is who he is.
Re: Bumgardner and Gausman. Both are the same type of pitcher. I don't know how many stats you need to show that being the case. Both Julio and Fried are in this neighborhood as well. Whether one is a fraction better or not doesn't really matter.
msstate7
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You wanna take enscheff's bet too? I'll give you the Gausman +0.2 fWAR
history says players get an extra 0.5 WAR if they get more rest? i'd be interested to see that data.
No because I don't care either way about Bumgardner. He's a middle of the road pitcher that people only care about because he was really good a few years ago in the playoffs.
Double platoon
msstate7
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You should email AA.... he seems to be the one you have a problem with on markakis. I have no problem with the markakis signing... saving there helped us get Donaldson and Dallas imo
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Something like that. Donaldson also needs a day off every week. So there should be enough playing time for everyone concerned. In spite of the complaints around here, Snit has been resting Muk fairly regularly the last few weeks. I'd rest him a little more, and wouldn't be surprised to see that happen the rest of the season.
despite the numbers you posted, Markakis will likely end up being below average this year. that's the point that you sidestepped with the straw man.
an upgrade could potentially become available that doesn't cost much $. but Markakis probably won't be relegated to the bench, even if a clear upgrade presents itself. that's my issue.
The team really needs Ender to come back and be healthy. A Muk/Riley platoon would be the best with Camargo super subbing around the field and Joyce/Charlie the main PHs.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
So you are running a shorter BP in your scenario?
I would unless upgrades are made. When some of them suck as much as they do then they are better off not on the team at all.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
It's hard to say when Ender will be back and what kind of player he will be at that point. The back issue doesn't seem to be a simple one.
Until then a time share between Muk, Joyce, Riley and Camargo for the two corner outfield spots makes sense. I think Camargo and Riley should be out there against virtually all lefties. Against righties, I won't get too exercised about how the starts should be allocated. As long as all four are given enough games to be both rested and sharp.
I don't think Ender coming back and being healthy is all that likely. Which sucks because if he was he's clearly the 2nd best OF on the team.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Yeah. A lot of people took a 3 WAR center fielder for granted.
Southcack77
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Point of fact: I've never predicted how many wins Markakis will put up in 2019. Or said he'd be "better" (whatever that means) during the offseason.
I'm well aware of his career profile, it's been discussed about 6,000 times. I've literally never disputed that he will likely regress from last season and it's always been quite possible that he would have his worst season.
I know you are beside yourself over getting a .220 BABIP month out of Markakis. Enjoy it. These are the simple pleasures of life.
I'm always been fine with upgrading Markakis, but the Braves were not signing Harper. McCutchen and Pollock were bad deals. Brantley preferred Houston. Most of the proposed trades for OFs around here were never going to happen. Some of them were actually quite dumb.
Nothing prevents Alex from making a move to upgrade Markakis though, certainly not the bargain contract Markakis signed.