GDT- 8-15-18- IT COMES FROM THE ISLAND OF GAUS... IT IS THE REVENGE OF THE GAUSMAN

CyYoung31 said:
They clearly were not prepared to throw Urena out until Snitker forced the issue.

There’s a reason players love playing for Snitker, a manager taking up for his players like that is purely a mental thing. It means a lot. I certainly don’t believe you have to do that to be a good manager though, nor do I think Snitker is a particularly good manager. But, I see no qualms in appreciating what he did tonight.
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He's a poor mans Bobby Cox. He certainly fits that mold more than Fredi ever did.
 
I’m gonna put a point in Snit’s column after seeing his news conference, too. He said he’d never felt like that in a baseball uniform before... his outburst clearly wasn’t some kind of performative macho bull****. He was just legitimately pissed at what happened to Ron Jr.
 
I watched Freddie's interview and his non verbal cues were telling all the animal parts of my brain to run and hide. Dude was seething.
 
Ronald Rump said:
I think the Umps were going to throw out Urena regardless of Snitkers' tirade. They went to committee and discussed the situation after mostly veryone went back to the dugouts and agreed to throw Urena out. Fredi being calm and talking to them about it would have accomplished the same thing.

But again this is why I laugh at this over exaggeration of masculinization of baseball. The manager has to have wild tirades and outbursts at umpires to get players to know he has their back? Fredi did get into some tirades with umps but he wasn't always as animated. I've seen Bobby get thrown out for calmly disputing calls then throw tirades after he was thrown out.
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Shouldn't have needed a conference to toss Urena. I'm old. This was a "purpose pitch" for which pitchers weren't tossed in an earlier era (which is getting to be darn near pre-historic for younger fans), but the present rules are very clear on this. Home plate ump should have tossed him right away as it was pretty clear it was misguided retaliation for Acuna's bat flip on Tuesday night (which is why guys should not flip bats, but again, I'm old).

Managers go ape for their guys periodically for a variety of reasons, most of which has to do with the clubhouse. It's a competitive situation and the manager is viewed as the scout troop leader. Managers have to step in to prevent players from getting tossed or things getting too out of whack and what Snitker did last night by putting himself in the center of the action ironically kept things from turning into a brawl (see Pascual Perez vs. San Diego Padres, 8/12/84). Anyone who has played Strat-o-Matic (again, I'm old) knows that there isn't a lot to baseball strategy (even in the age of analytics). You have 25 guys and you try to use them as effectively as possible. Keeping a changing roster of guys working together over almost nine months is the true challenge to managing.

I didn't see Mattingly's comments as throwing Urena completely under the bus (although I missed the last thirty seconds of his comments due to a phone call). I thought he handled things professionally and clearly understood where the Braves were coming from. Urena should sit for at least two weeks. It was such an egregiously obvious attempt to hit Acuna.
 
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