GDT 8/22/15 @Cubs; Perez v. Haren

blueagleace1 said:
That's the good thing about opinions, everyone has one. Just like my opinion that Williams Perez isn't a MLB starter (proved that once again today allowing 10 baserunners (6 ER) in 4 2/3 IP)
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Yeah, Perez has only had 1 good start since he came back. Definitely going the wrong way... All rookie pitchers seem to be trending that way. Not good. So are folty and wisler definitely not mlb starters too?
 
msstate7 said:
Yeah, Perez has only had 1 good start since he came back. Definitely going the wrong way... All rookie pitchers seem to be trending that way. Not good. So are folty and wisler definitely not mlb starters too?
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Too early to tell. I suspect we will pick up a FA starting pitcher.
 
msstate7 said:
Yeah, Perez has only had 1 good start since he came back. Definitely going the wrong way... All rookie pitchers seem to be trending that way. Not good. So are folty and wisler definitely not mlb starters too?
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Why do you keep bringing them up? I've never once said they were or weren't. But if you're asking, I think Wisler will be a solid #4.
 
msstate7 said:
Yeah, Perez has only had 1 good start since he came back. Definitely going the wrong way... All rookie pitchers seem to be trending that way. Not good. So are folty and wisler definitely not mlb starters too?
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And if you think Perez has out pitched Wisler, you're crazy.
 
msstate7 said:
Just seems you single out Perez a lot.

Season era's...

Perez -- 4.76
Folty -- 6.06
Wisler -- 4.66
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Ok. That doesn't include today's start I'm sure, but I don't necessary look at ERA to determine who's had a better (or worse haha) season. Things like ERA+, WHIP, K/BB are things I look at.

I'm not trying to be a di** and if I've come across that way I apologize but I just don't see how some on here (not you) think Perez can be a quality Major League starter.
 
blueagleace1 said:
Ok. That doesn't include today's start I'm sure, but I don't necessary look at ERA to determine who's had a better (or worse haha) season. Things like ERA+, WHIP, K/BB are things I look at.

I'm not trying to be a di** and if I've come across that way I apologize but I just don't see how some on here (not you) think Perez can be a quality Major League starter.
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It does include today.

I'm not sold on any of our rookie starters fwiw
 
This team is a freaking joke. We'll have to severely overpay to get FAs this offseason. Who in their right mind would want to play for this team with fredi as a manager?
 
msstate7 said:
This team is a freaking joke. We'll have to severely overpay to get FAs this offseason. Who in their right mind would want to play for this team with fredi as a manager?
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Sure someone would, not sure who, none of the premier FA's obviously.
 
Heyward said:
Sure someone would, not sure who, none of the premier FA's obviously.
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We wouldn't pay the premier ones anyway most likely. Sad part is that we need a premier one to get it going in right direction or for 2 of Perez/folty/banuelos/wisler/Jenkins to really turn it up big time next season
 
msstate7 said:
Peterson last 30 games...
.209 avg
.275 obp
.309 slugging

Really wish peraza had got a shot at 2b
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Yeah it just seems that after Jace had that really good 6 weeks to 2 months or whatever it was that he was just anointed the 2B without giving any consideration to Peraza. Hopefully that turns out to be the correct move as that was one I felt they couldn't miss on going forward.
 
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