GDT 8-9.... JULIO BLACKENS THE FISH IN CAJUN GOODNESS.....

AerchAngel said:
Argument is done. Sorry.

He did not hit 108 and not regularly 100 or he would have more wins.

I have nothing else to say.
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So we are ignoring science now. Did you even click on the link? I'm guessing not.

It is a scientific and mathematical fact that Ryan hit 100 MPH regularly. The link I posted is referencing a documentary about the fastest pitchers ever. From the documentary:

The measuring methods were different in 1974. The 83mph fastball was measured about 7ft behind the plate. The 98.6mph fastball was measured on the plate. The 100.8mph fastball from Nolan was measured 10ft in front of home plate

Why does this matter? As the physicists explains, due to drag and other factors a ball slows down quite a bit from the point it is thrown to when it reaches the plate. The Chapman fastball uses today's method of measuring which measures just 20ft in front of the mound, basically a few feet in front of where the ball leaves the hand of the pitcher which is at its fastest point in flight.

Using calculations they began to figure out how fast the other fastballs would be if measured in todays method.

The result? Nolan Ryans 100.8 fastball would have been rung up as 108mph in todays game.



There you go. Science. Math. Physics. You cannot change these facts because "he didn't win a lot of games."
 
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Carp said:
So we are ignoring science now. Did you even click on the link? I'm guessing not.

It is a scientific and mathematical fact that Ryan hit 100 MPH regularly. The link I posted is referencing a documentary about the fastest pitchers ever. From the documentary:

The measuring methods were different in 1974. The 83mph fastball was measured about 7ft behind the plate. The 98.6mph fastball was measured on the plate. The 100.8mph fastball from Nolan was measured 10ft in front of home plate

Why does this matter? As the physicists explains, due to drag and other factors a ball slows down quite a bit from the point it is thrown to when it reaches the plate. The Chapman fastball uses today's method of measuring which measures just 20ft in front of the mound, basically a few feet in front of where the ball leaves the hand of the pitcher which is at its fastest point in flight.

Using calculations they began to figure out how fast the other fastballs would be if measured in todays method.

The result? Nolan Ryans 100.8 fastball would have been rung up as 108mph in todays game.



There you go. Science. Math. Physics. You cannot change these facts because "he didn't win a lot of games."
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I am sorry, did I not say, I am tired of this stupid argument? Get a clue.
 
Snit just said Melancon is the primary closer for now. Per Gabe.

Cant even disagree with this, he's been by far the best pitcher they've acquired, i still dont like his contract for next year, but thats another discussion.
 
Braves1976 said:
probably because he hasn't seen a clean inning without runs yet.
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I just find it hilarious because when Greene came here, the first thing Snitker told him was "you know you'll be pitching the 9th innings here right?"

Some of us felt Martin should be closer but Snit not surprisingly went with Greene because of save numbers.
 
Individual-1 said:
I just find it hilarious because when Greene came here, the first thing Snitker told him was "you know you'll be pitching the 9th innings here right?"

Some of us felt Martin should be closer but Snit not surprisingly went with Greene because of save numbers.
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give Swarzak a chance
 
chop2chip said:
#TVgun

As always, we should wait for the Statcast data. I still remember a start against Philly two years ago where Julio was sitting 95 on the TV gun.
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The data you get from mlb gameday is statcast data. One of his pitches registered at 94.6 so it's real.
 
And ryan was a freak who played on a lot of ****ty teams. Either way he has over 100 career WAR. He's not the best but I would say the most dominating. He has the record for mist no hitters, 1 hitters, 2 hitters, and 3 hitters in mlb history.
 
thewupk said:
And ryan was a freak who played on a lot of ****ty teams. Either way he has over 100 career WAR. He's not the best but I would say the most dominating. He has the record for mist no hitters, 1 hitters, 2 hitters, and 3 hitters in mlb history.
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Ryan is an interesting case. Yes, a hall of famer. When he was on he was almost literally unhittable.

But he does have 292 losses a winning percentage only slightly over . 500. I agree that win percentage is not an end-all stat. BUT it becomes more relevant the larger the sample size. Bill James wrote about Ryan and dispelled the impression that he just played on crappy teams. In fact his winning % was just slightly better than his teams % for his career.

BBRef has his WAR at 81.2 which is 60th of all time. Why isn’t he higher up the WAR list despite pitching in 27 seasons? Simple, walks, and a LOT of them.
 
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