GDT: 9-11-13 Braves (Minor) at Marlins(Fernandez) Upton, Uggla sit again

Medlen (only starting pitcher starting to get better in September, not worse)

Minor (looks rough lately)

Teheran (pitching more innings than ever before)

Wood (looks TERRIBLE lately)

Beachy (hurt)

Maholm (hurt)

YIKES! What a disaster. If it derails the season, Wren has no one but himself to blame. It was pretty obvious we needed some starting pitching before the season. Now we have Garcia and Loe starting games in September.

It was? A rotation of Hudson/Maholm/Minor/Medlen/Teheran to start was pretty solid. Where was the room for another starter?
 
It was? A rotation of Hudson/Maholm/Minor/Medlen/Teheran to start was pretty solid. Where was the room for another starter?

Depth. Wood wasn't on the radar for this season (we got lucky), so the only real depth we had was Gilmartin (who basically imploded during spring training). And we hadn't used less than eight starting pitchers since Maddux left (Garcia will make #9 this year). It was obvious.
 
Sorry for not going thru all of the previous posts, just got here, and wondering what happened initially between CJ and Fernandez?
 
Depth. Wood wasn't on the radar for this season (we got lucky), so the only real depth we had was Gilmartin (who basically imploded during spring training). And we hadn't used less than eight starting pitchers since Maddux left. It was obvious.

What kind of depth were you expecting? This "depth" would have been kept in the minors - similar to Loe/Garcia/Hale, but you've already complained about them. Maybe Cristhian Martinez was part of that depth. How about the return of Beachy mid-season?
 
I'm sincerely not kidding that I would rather have any position player on this team starting over Garcia/Loe.

Loe I agree, but I don't understand all the hate on Freddy Garcia. The guy is still a serviceable pitcher. I don't want to trot him out for the playoffs, but he's okay.
Right now I'm more concerned about this offense than anything else. At this rate it doesn't who they run out there, if you can't score you can't win. And right now the offense is on hiatus.
 
What kind of depth were you expecting? This "depth" would have been kept in the minors - similar to Loe/Garcia/Hale, but you've already complained about them. Maybe Cristhian Martinez was part of that depth. How about the return of Beachy mid-season?

Nothing we would've picked up would've been similar to Garcia/Loe. That is a joke. They should not be on a professional team, especially one headed for the playoffs.

You could definitely consider Beachy for July/August - Hudson, Maholm, Teheran, Minor, Medlen, Gilmartin, Beachy (second half). Gilmartin imploded. Wood exploded. They cancel each other out. Still leaves at least one starting pitcher needed if we aren't going to use less than eight for the first time in a decade. That's counting on a prospect. No major injuries. And someone coming off the DL. It was obvious. Had the discussion a million times before the season started. Wren ignored it then and basically ignored it at the deadline. He tried to correct his mistake by claiming Lohse, but that was a desperate move that came too late.
 
Loe I agree, but I don't understand all the hate on Freddy Garcia. The guy is still a serviceable pitcher. I don't want to trot him out for the playoffs, but he's okay.
Right now I'm more concerned about this offense than anything else. At this rate it doesn't who they run out there, if you can't score you can't win. And right now the offense is on hiatus.

Garcia is a 5.00 ERA pitcher now. That isn't serviceable.
 
Nothing we would've picked up would've been similar to Garcia/Loe. That is a joke. They should not be on a professional team, especially one headed for the playoffs.

You could definitely consider Beachy for July/August - Hudson, Maholm, Teheran, Minor, Medlen, Gilmartin, Beachy (second half). Gilmartin imploded. Wood exploded. They cancel each other out. Still leaves at least one starting pitcher needed if we aren't going to use less than eight for the first time in a decade. That's counting on a prospect. No major injuries. And someone coming off the DL. It was obvious. Had the discussion a million times before the season started. Wren ignored it then and basically ignored it at the deadline. He tried to correct his mistake by claiming Lohse, but that was a desperate move that came too late.

Quality starting pitching is such an abundance, right? Still not sure what you were wanting that was gonna be better than a Garcia/Loe type to stash in AAA all season
 
Quality starting pitching is such an abundance, right? Still not sure what you were wanting that was gonna be better than a Garcia/Loe type to stash in AAA all season

No one said anything about quality. We have Garcia and Loe starting for us. Serviceable would be a HUGE improvement. Hell, letting some of our prospects get some time in would be a much better option, even if they aren't quite ready.
 
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this is what probably started it...
 
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this is what probably started it...

From what I've gathered that may have been the start of it, but it was also Chris Johnson jawing to Jose that "you can't get that **** by me" in the 6th when Johnson flew out. Then obviously Jose admired his homer too much. I think Mac was calm about it just telling him he can't do that. Then CJ had to run in and it escalated.

Apparently Jose apologized to Mac and Minor after the game.

That kid is fun to watch tho.
 
CJ must be worried about losing his job to Elliot.
He might be showing Fredi he's the rah rah guy Fredi needs.
 
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